Talentless buffoon

[One of our own]

Barkhuizen is not a clinical close-range finisher but one of those players possibly more likely to score from 18 yards than eight.

I agree and to be honest if he was that clinical he'd just be a striker... he has all the attributes to be a striker and add the goals he wouldn't be played in several different positions.

Nice purple patch on arriving at Deepdale and good asset for next season

 

[Thracia]

Barkhuizen is not a clinical close-range finisher but one of those players possibly more likely to score from 18 yards than eight.

Have you even seen the goals he has scored?

 

[ernest]

Have you even seen the goals he has scored?

Yes.

 

[Thracia]

Yes.

Well then, how do you come to the conclusion that he is "not a clinical close-range finisher", other than ignoring the evidence that he is.

 

[ernest]

Well then, how do you come to the conclusion that he is "not a clinical close-range finisher", other than ignoring the evidence that he is.

Because he lacks that slight deftness of touch that is sometimes needed to beat a keeper where there isn't much of an angle to shoot at. Hopefully it is a skill he will develop.

 

[Pardy]

Because he lacks that slight deftness of touch that is sometimes needed to beat a keeper where there isn't much of an angle to shoot at. Hopefully it is a skill he will develop.

as he proved at Fulham when he demonstrated a slight deftness of touch to beat a keeper where there wasn't much of an angle

 

[Nishtar36]

How has he proven me wrong?

I'm still waiting for you to show when I said I would drive him to Ipswich for 500k.

You laughed off the supposed £1 million bid for him, and said that he wouldn't make double figures this season.

 

[Thracia]

Because he lacks that slight deftness of touch that is sometimes needed to beat a keeper where there isn't much of an angle to shoot at. Hopefully it is a skill he will develop.

Think you need to go and review his Fulham goal, second goal v Reading and goal v Bristol City.

I realise you've already compartmentalized Barkhuizen as a right winger, and that means nothing now can ever shake him back out of that little box for you, but in actual fact, SG has already stated he views him as an out-and-out striker who can play in other attacking positions too, and if you look at the goals he's scored, and the chances he has created for others, as well as the chances on target that he's had saved, you can see his point.

 

[Nishtar36]

Think you need to go and review his Fulham goal, second goal v Reading and goal v Bristol City.

I realise you've already compartmentalized Barkhuizen as a right winger, and that means nothing now can ever shake him back out of that little box for you, but in actual fact, SG has already stated he views him as an out-and-out striker who can play in other attacking positions too, and if you look at the goals he's scored, and the chances he has created for others, as well as the chances on target that he's had saved, you can see his point.

Out of interest, where has SG stated this?

 

[ernest]

as he proved at Fulham when he demonstrated a slight deftness of touch to beat a keeper where there wasn't much of an angle

No I was behind he goal there and he hit the ball hard and low from a reasonably central position past the keeper before the keeper had time to get right up close to him. That is what he is good at.

 

[Tugg Speedman]

We really need to stop calling Hugill a kid or a youngster on here. He is nearly 25 and has 112 career games under his belt. Anders Lindegard has played 108 career games. Does that make him a kid too? In any case, what age, or number of games played, does Hugill have to reach before we can stop calling him a rookie?

For yourself and the other smart arses on here, tell me how much actual game time Hugill has had at Championship level. Go on. And do the same for Robinson.

Then if it still makes you feel better, you can come back and slag one of your own players who's learning the game at this level.

They are both doing very well for us, regardless of their age or inexperience. But some muppets prefer not to see that.

I don't understand what you expect. It seems his leading of the line and 10 goals are not enough???

 

[Pardy]

No I was behind he goal there and he hit the ball hard and low from a reasonably central position past the keeper before the keeper had time to get right up close to him. That is what he is good at.

I was there and I viewed the video. He was centrally one on one with the keeper and deftly put it to the keepers right.

 

[Thracia]

Out of interest, where has SG stated this?

LEP last week: "Tom is a very versatile player from my perspective, you can play him anywhere across the front, as an out-and-out striker, a wing-back or winger.

"You look at him last week when we played Forest, he played down the middle and looked a constant threat.

"We moved him out to the wing against Bristol City and he did a good job , both in the opposition box when he came off the line and got central to score his goal and also he does the defensive duty as well.

"Hand on heart, I probably see him as an out-and-out striker who can run off the back of the defenders with his blistering pace.

"Ask him to do any other job and he will do it, the lad is a very willing worker."

I've posted this quote for ernest's benefit before, I'm sure, but as with the evidence of the goals he's scored, ernest sometimes dismisses facts that don't fit the "little boxes" approach.

 

[Nishtar36]

LEP last week: "Tom is a very versatile player from my perspective, you can play him anywhere across the front, as an out-and-out striker, a wing-back or winger.

"You look at him last week when we played Forest, he played down the middle and looked a constant threat.

"We moved him out to the wing against Bristol City and he did a good job , both in the opposition box when he came off the line and got central to score his goal and also he does the defensive duty as well.

"Hand on heart, I probably see him as an out-and-out striker who can run off the back of the defenders with his blistering pace.

"Ask him to do any other job and he will do it, the lad is a very willing worker."

I've posted this quote for ernest's benefit before, I'm sure, but as with the evidence of the goals he's scored, ernest sometimes dismisses facts that don't fit the "little boxes" approach.

Thanks. That's how I see him too, and I'd prefer if he became an out and out striker for us. Think Ernest is over analysing slightly as TB has already produced a range of goals.

 

[ernest]

Think you need to go and review his Fulham goal, second goal v Reading and goal v Bristol City.

I realise you've already compartmentalized Barkhuizen as a right winger

The second goal against Reading was a bit of an exception but he actually missed a one-on-one from a tight angle shortly after. As for compartmentalising him as a right-winger I have done no such thing - in fact my view is the exact opposite that at some point we will need to start playing him consistently as an out-and-out striker in order to get the most from him.

 

[Jack Daniels]

Because he lacks that slight deftness of touch that is sometimes needed to beat a keeper where there isn't much of an angle to shoot at. Hopefully it is a skill he will develop.

Blackburn away. Wasn't much to aim at. He scored.

 

[Jack Daniels]

No I was behind he goal there and he hit the ball hard and low from a reasonably central position past the keeper before the keeper had time to get right up close to him. That is what he is good at.

Outside of the boot. That is showing a deft touch. He didn't hit it "hard and low".

 

[ernest]

Outside of the boot. That is showing a deft touch. He didn't hit it "hard and low".

Outside of the boot certainly and that was deft but he still hit it quite hard before the keeper could close him down. I am not criticising the lad - he is a massively exciting prospect. But based on what I have seen so far then he is less effective than, say, Robinson might be in situations where what is required is a little shimmy to wrong foot the keeper and then a little dink to take advantage of it. As I said maybe he will learn that or come to realise that in one-on-ones his best bet will be to hit the ball early rather than as most players might get as close to the goals as possible.

 

[Tino]

Because he lacks that slight deftness of touch that is sometimes needed to beat a keeper where there isn't much of an angle to shoot at. Hopefully it is a skill he will develop.

as he proved at Fulham when he demonstrated a slight deftness of touch to beat a keeper where there wasn't much of an angle

Think you need to go and review his Fulham goal, second goal v Reading and goal v Bristol City.

I realise you've already compartmentalized Barkhuizen as a right winger, and that means nothing now can ever shake him back out of that little box for you, but in actual fact, SG has already stated he views him as an out-and-out striker who can play in other attacking positions too, and if you look at the goals he's scored, and the chances he has created for others, as well as the chances on target that he's had saved, you can see his point.

Add the Derby one to that as well....

 

[norky84]

You laughed off the supposed £1 million bid for him, and said that he wouldn't make double figures this season.

Where have I said he wouldn't make double figures this season? Where have I said I would drive him to Ipswich for 500k?

Let's be honest, you have been proven wrong when earlier in the season you said we never had the players to play 442.

In January I said a move to a midlands club may appeal to Robinson as it would be a move back to where he was from. You tried to argue that he wasn't from the midlands, as you seem to have habit on here in trying to prove people wrong. I had to clarify that Northampton is in the midlands.

Previously you said Hugill had an average of a goal in 3 games, when 1 goal every 280 minutes was actually 1 goal every 4 games. Took you a long time to realise you were wrong.

Back on topic, I would seriously be delighted if Hugill scores in every game for the rest of the season. And if he attracts a large fee from elsewhere brilliant. I still don't think he's as good as some people make out he is. But I don't think he's as bad as some people make out he is. I will be very interested to see how he performs next season when he is likely to be a more marked man by opposing sides.