The McGeady difference

[Nishtar36]

Quite silly to say that we’d have been relegated without McGeady really.

He didn’t score a match winning goal, and he only scored 3 or 4 goals to snatch a point - most memorable being at Ewood Park. We would’ve been less fluid going forward, but we’d gave been solid, as we were the season before when we survived comfortably without him.

The OP assumes that McGeadys alternative would’ve had 0 goals and 0 assists - it’s like saying if we didn’t have Alex Neil this season then we’d have been relegated because we wouldn’t have had a manager.

Silly thread.

 

[Manuel Fawlty]

Well at least we are safe, look on the bright side, you could be a Blackpool fan, have you sen that table? One more loss and it’s squeaky bum time for them. I know where I’d rather be (Bolton are not out of the shit either, yet)

We could also be like Burnley. That would be too much to ask for though as we would have to break our 18 year old transfer record.

 

[Former Member]

We could also be like Burnley. That would be too much to ask for though as we would have to break our 18 year old transfer record.

Shhh, you aren’t allowed to criticise the owner on here. Not breaking our 18 year old transfer record whilst pursuing the premier league is totally acceptable, obviously.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Shhh, you aren’t allowed to criticise the owner on here. Not breaking our 18 year old transfer record whilst pursuing the premier league is totally acceptable, obviously.

I think breaking the transfer record for the right player is a fair point.

Also players who we are going to break our transfer record for will not come here for less than 10k a week because of the inflated prices in the market therefore it could be impossible for us to break our transfer record whilst having the wage ceiling.

 

[raefil]

I think breaking the transfer record for the right player is a fair point.

Also players who we are going to break our transfer record for will not come here for less than 10k a week because of the inflated prices in the market therefore it could be impossible for us to break our transfer record whilst having the wage ceiling.

How do we get rid of that pay ceiling without jeopardising the clubs future?

Not aimed at you ron, BTW.

We gambled, in our not too distant past and it nearly finished the club.

 

[Jack Daniels]

How do we get rid of that pay ceiling without jeopardising the clubs future?

Not aimed at you ron, BTW.

We gambled, in our not too distant past and it nearly finished the club.

Increased Sponsorship for starters.

Also, we could spend £2m breaking the record on a lad currently earning £1k pw and he comes here on £8k pw which is both a massive jump for him salary wise whilst keeping beneath the £10k ceiling. (as an example)

Both can be done. It is all a case of have we got the will. Talk is cheap, actions speak volumes and with the seasonly unaccounted for £8m Hugill money, we will find out this summer given that we appear to have glaring weaknesses in about 3 key positions.

Soon find out how serious this club really is.

 

[raefil]

Increased Sponsorship for starters.

Also, we could spend £2m breaking the record on a lad currently earning £1k pw and he comes here on £8k pw which is both a massive jump for him salary wise whilst keeping beneath the £10k ceiling. (as an example)

Both can be done. It is all a case of have we got the will. Talk is cheap, actions speak volumes and with the seasonly unaccounted for £8m Hugill money, we will find out this summer given that we appear to have glaring weaknesses in about 3 key positions.

Soon find out how serious this club really is.

Well, sorry folks, if my 50 odd years of supporting PNE is anything to go by where we are now is as serious as this club ever gets.

Far from strengthening, if a decent bid for, lets say Pearson, hes gone.

We then bring in someone from a lower league.

 

[norky84]

Quite silly to say that we’d have been relegated without McGeady really.

He didn’t score a match winning goal, and he only scored 3 or 4 goals to snatch a point - most memorable being at Ewood Park. We would’ve been less fluid going forward, but we’d gave been solid, as we were the season before when we survived comfortably without him.

The OP assumes that McGeadys alternative would’ve had 0 goals and 0 assists - it’s like saying if we didn’t have Alex Neil this season then we’d have been relegated because we wouldn’t have had a manager.

Silly thread.

He had 2 goals and an assist against Brentford in a 4-2 win, a goal against QPR in a 2-1 win. He doesn't score in them games that's 5 points worse off alone. Don't forget the assists in draws against Wigan, Wednesday, Villa, Ipswich, Rotherham, and an assist in a win against Birmingham. He was a massive influence in helping us gain a large number of points, and we haven't found a way to replace that yet, certainly at home.

I do believe my post on here did say we may have been relegated last season if wasn't for McGeady. Not that we would have.

But that's going off the main points. And that's people have brought up our poor home record this season, we need another striker etc. When in my opinion, we have missed a player of McGeady's quality to create something from nothing against teams who sit back at Deepdale. He had a special ability, and unfortunately we've not had a similar option this season.

 

[sedgwick__7]

But that's going off the main points. And that's people have brought up our poor home record this season, we need another striker etc. When in my opinion, we have missed a player of McGeady's quality to create something from nothing against teams who sit back at Deepdale. He had a special ability, and unfortunately we've not had a similar option this season.

Agree that attacking wise, it's a top class no.10 we lack to open teams up. We've got Maguire and Moult as no.9s who we need to see much more of first before saying we need more strikers.

 

[WADSH]

Well, sorry folks, if my 50 odd years of supporting PNE is anything to go by where we are now is as serious as this club ever gets.

Far from strengthening, if a decent bid for, lets say Pearson, hes gone.

We then bring in someone from a lower league.

So maybe Pearson out for £X and Ledson in for £Y: £x-£y being a hefty surplus?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

How do we get rid of that pay ceiling without jeopardising the clubs future?

Not aimed at you ron, BTW.

We gambled, in our not too distant past and it nearly finished the club.

In a nutshell? We don't.

Our current recruitment policy is spot on for a club like ours signing lower league gems and Premiership cast offs and mould them into a team that gives everything for the shirt simply because they have one thing in abundance compared to the rest of the league and that is attitude.

People forget we bought Moult and Bodin in January for over a million pounds and they have certainly improved the squad compared to Pringle and Doyle.

Summer is massive for us and I think AN is the right man to spot a good player and invest our money wisely so that we have the depth and quality to get some consistency in our performances going forward.

The problem we have had I feel since Hugill left is we are very one dimensional going forward, the difference between Maguire and Hugill gave us real options whilst I feel Moult is a bit of a mould between the two of them. We need to go out and sign a target man who when we need to we can play the ball up to them and it will stick, this means AN has the ability to change his game plan at will constantly keeping the opposition guessing.

Teams will come in for our players thats inevitable but as long as we re-invest and find the gems on a consistent basis we will be fine and hopefully regularly challenge at the top end of the division.

 

[raefil]

 

[SF]

That list just goes to show how mental English football has become due to foreign investment and parachute money. No reflection on PNE's 'ambition'.

 

[Jack Daniels]

In a nutshell? We don't.

Our current recruitment policy is spot on for a club like ours signing lower league gems and Premiership cast offs and mould them into a team that gives everything for the shirt simply because they have one thing in abundance compared to the rest of the league and that is attitude.

People forget we bought Moult and Bodin in January for over a million pounds and they have certainly improved the squad compared to Pringle and Doyle.

Summer is massive for us and I think AN is the right man to spot a good player and invest our money wisely so that we have the depth and quality to get some consistency in our performances going forward.

The problem we have had I feel since Hugill left is we are very one dimensional going forward, the difference between Maguire and Hugill gave us real options whilst I feel Moult is a bit of a mould between the two of them. We need to go out and sign a target man who when we need to we can play the ball up to them and it will stick, this means AN has the ability to change his game plan at will constantly keeping the opposition guessing.

Teams will come in for our players thats inevitable but as long as we re-invest and find the gems on a consistent basis we will be fine and hopefully regularly challenge at the top end of the division.

Moult and Bodin combined was around the £900k mark. Not over a million pounds as you posted.

 

[HunterLionheart]

Well, sorry folks, if my 50 odd years of supporting PNE is anything to go by where we are now is as serious as this club ever gets.

Far from strengthening, if a decent bid for, lets say Pearson, hes gone.

We then bring in someone from a lower league.

Didn't we reject bids for Cunningham and Robinson in summer? Not to mention the rejected bids for Hugill which many would have snapped the hands off.

We don't have the fan base or income to start spending 20, 30 grand a week on one player. We buy from where we can afford to buy. Sometimes that's lower league, Bodin and Barkhuizen. Sometimes that's Premier league, Pearson and Harrop.

I don't really know what else people expect. If we want to strengthen it involves buying low and selling high. If we don't sell there is no buying.

 

[raefil]

Didn't we reject bids for Cunningham and Robinson in summer? Not to mention the rejected bids for Hugill which many would have snapped the hands off.

We don't have the fan base or income to start spending 20, 30 grand a week on one player. We buy from where we can afford to buy. Sometimes that's lower league, Bodin and Barkhuizen. Sometimes that's Premier league, Pearson and Harrop.

I don't really know what else people expect. If we want to strengthen it involves buying low and selling high. If we don't sell there is no buying.

I dont expect any more, HL

Like i say ive seen this for 50+ years. Its what I expect to happen again.

 

[marsbars]

One picture post summarises the issue 🙂

 

[Tino]

I'm sure that includes a £1M fee for Rudd which the Riddler said in reality was nowhere near.

 

[bowlandwhites]

He had 2 goals and an assist against Brentford in a 4-2 win, a goal against QPR in a 2-1 win. He doesn't score in them games that's 5 points worse off alone. Don't forget the assists in draws against Wigan, Wednesday, Villa, Ipswich, Rotherham, and an assist in a win against Birmingham. He was a massive influence in helping us gain a large number of points, and we haven't found a way to replace that yet, certainly at home.

I do believe my post on here did say we may have been relegated last season if wasn't for McGeady. Not that we would have.

But that's going off the main points. And that's people have brought up our poor home record this season, we need another striker etc. When in my opinion, we have missed a player of McGeady's quality to create something from nothing against teams who sit back at Deepdale. He had a special ability, and unfortunately we've not had a similar option this season.

Someone will be bringing Finney up next. Mageady did a good job last season but at times he was bloody selfish and lost the ball in bad positions & held back some of our young midfielders like Browne demanding the ball all the time.The same can be said of Gally top player on his day but he dominates all set pieces & like yesterday he set plays were very poor to say the least & slowing up play should have been subbed & harrop given chance to at least change set pieces & pace of the game. MaGeady & Gally have been brilliant in some games but we tend to forget the times like yesterday where Gall is simply not the player he was.
I think the times right to give other player a chance Gally Barky & even Huntington dropping to the bench bringing in the lads off the bench that need to be given a chance esspecialy Tom Clarke at CB

 

[JK]

Increased Sponsorship for starters.

That's easier said than done. The last time we were in this position there was a sponsorship boom in football especially in the domestic and local market. However those days have gone hence why so many Premier League clubs have logos on shirts for companies that we can't even pronounce. Unless you are a big fish when you have official watches and tyre partners there are a lot of clubs fighting over few few companies.

The new digital advertising will help but once again unless you are in the top flight had have millions of world wide TV viewers it won't be huge. Clubs install them for big FA Cup games because they get paid a silly amount to do so.

I'm not saying the club could do more I'm sure they could.