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The Match day thread is a nightmare of bitching and whinging so I thought I'd start a fresher new one

Apart from the bloody result I thought that was an excellent local derby... We played very well and deserved at least a draw.. Their 4th was irrelevant because our Keeper went up for a last minute corner and their 3rd pointed out to me why Diaby isn't in the starting line up ( awful defending) ... And just for a change I thought the referee was top notch....That's my take on it.
 
Liberation said:
The Match day thread is a nightmare of bitching and whinging so I thought I'd start a fresher new one

Apart from the bloody result I thought that was an excellent local derby... We played very well and deserved at least a draw.. Their 4th was irrelevant because our Keeper went up for a last minute corner and their 3rd pointed out to me why Diaby isn't in the starting line up ( awful defending) ... And just for a change I thought the referee was top notch....That's my take on it.
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Yes the ref was top notch. We still lost though and still short of players.
 
I thought we lost it when Cunningham went off, Woodburn disappeared and McCann looked knackered, couldn’t see who or how we scored our second, Riis up top on his own doesn’t work, we concede and put more alleged strikers on in Evans and Maguire, fourth goal we had everyone up
up until they scored second we were well on top and quietened their fans down
 
It was much better than last season's performance, but that was such a shitshow Frankie was sacked 7 games later, despite winning 3 of them.

The pressing game worked in patches in the first half, and the much-vaunted possession game had more ambition to it than the Huddersfield tip-tap-fest midweek.

But then Cunningham got injured and... [this post has been edited to maintain vaguely positive vibe]
 
OB1 said:
Referee was exceptional. Reffed it exactly how you want a derby reffing. Few errors but yards ahead of the Championship refs

Also Whiteman has to keep the armband full time
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My only complaint about the Referee was him not giving Patino a Second Yellow for his High Boot on Whiteman. It was a Yellow, but because he'd already been on a Yellow a second wasn't given. But it happens a lot in Football. Referee's see it as not a sending off Offence so don't give the Second Yellow even though it was a Yellow and a the rules says second Yellow means Red.
 
Whilst the scor flatters the lashers they still found a way to win. We lack quality when injuries/suspensions hit as we don't have strength in depth. I'm commented after the Stoke loss on another thread that Diaby just doesn't have any positional sense & it showed today. He's simply not good enough at this level, despite his strength & speed.

We have no forward options other than Riis & no pace in midfield. Hamilton played well - we miss someone who is direct & attacks at pace from either flank.

I don't think Lowe is blameless but hrs not been backed adequately IMHO & we simply don't have the type of players needed to play his style.

We don't have the personnel to actually switch to 4 at back to mix it up.

I know some are not keen on Lowe but what does getting rid of Lowe do? Nowt, continuity & same cycle. Need to back him in January.

The current squad is mid table at best so in reality we're doing fine. Though my concern is if we gomon conceding & not scoring. 2 or 3 more losses on the bounce could mean we get dragged into the relegation zone.
 
Polychrono said:
I thought we lost it when Cunningham went off, Woodburn disappeared and McCann looked knackered, couldn’t see who or how we scored our second, Riis up top on his own doesn’t work, we concede and put more alleged strikers on in Evans and Maguire, fourth goal we had everyone up
up until they scored second we were well on top and quietened their fans down
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We did indeed
 
Lee Cartwright said:
I thought we were by far the better side for the majority of the game BUT it is about putting the ball in the net. We looked all over the place once Greg went off.

I have the belief in Lowe that, if he was to get a few more of his own players in, he could do a good job for us
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Still 10th so by that sole metric he is doing a good job as disappointing as days like today are.

Team/squad isn't good enough for top 6 but it's an incredibly congested championship over a third into the season which suggests it isn't high quality compared to previous years. You just wish those at the club would have a proper go in January but I think we all know how that script will play out.

That's the thing for me. If you gave Lowe two proven championship players in the positions he requests and form remains mediocre then he can't have complaints if he then loses his job (just as likes of Wilder and Bruce have in last month).

Feels like he'll just go with one hand tied behind his back for pretty much his whole tenure here and he'll do better at his next club.

What's worse for me is board saw the impact Archer had from coming in last January and didn't pull out all the stops to make a similar signing in the summer. It's a very easy win to get optimism within fanbase so that remains an unforgivable transfer window.
 
Lee Cartwright said:
I thought we were by far the better side for the majority of the game BUT it is about putting the ball in the net. We looked all over the place once Greg went off.

I have the belief in Lowe that, if he was to get a few more of his own players in, he could do a good job for us
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We put the ball in the net twice lee,the defence is where it went wrong,Diaby is a bomb scare and the defending by Fernández for the first goal was school boy stuff,you can't concede 4 and expect to get something from the game
 
Whoopi Goldberg said:
We put the ball in the net twice lee,the defence is where it went wrong,Diaby is a bomb scare and the defending by Fernández for the first goal was school boy stuff,you can't concede 4 and expect to get something from the game
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It's not like the defence is doing that every game. Nearly double figures in clean sheets already so the base is there but ultimately the attacking options are s*** compared to pretty much every other club above or even below in the table and that's the reality as every week goes on.

Can't say I rate Diaby much at all from what I've seen though. Just another punt that isn't going to come off so hopefully he won't be featuring much if the first choices can stay fit.
 
Whoopi Goldberg said:
We put the ball in the net twice lee,the defence is where it went wrong,Diaby is a bomb scare and the defending by Fernández for the first goal was school boy stuff,you can't concede 4 and expect to get something from the game
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It is about putting the ball in the net i.e. Blackpool scored 4 so won silly
 
SoccerHQ said:
It's not like the defence is doing that every game. Nearly double figures in clean sheets already so the base is there but ultimately the attacking options are s*** compared to pretty much every other club above or even below in the table and that's the reality as every week goes on.
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We're conceding a lot more goals recently than we did during that early run of clean sheets though.

I don't think "the base is there" applies - we're just reverting to the mean, and we concede more goals than we score.
 
Thracia said:
We're conceding a lot more goals recently than we did during that early run of clean sheets though.

I don't think "the base is there" applies - we're just reverting to the mean, and we concede more goals than we score.
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West Brom and Huddersfield were both clean sheets and that was in last 5 games wasn't it? 2 clean sheets out of every 5 games is very good in my book and would mean nearly 20 clean sheets by end of the season. Norwich were top of league when going there aswell so that sort of team will always have a strong scoring threat.

Much more concerning is other end. If Riis isn't up for the game then there is no other reliable scorer in squad now DJ is in exile with no penalties to convert so you simply won't be getting to 40 games and still be in serious contention for play offs with that weakness unless it significantly changes in 10 weeks time.
 
Is Lowe completely inept in basic tactics? Cunningham goes off so he sticks with the formation? It's pretty obvious he should have gone to a back 4. You don't need to be Pep to understand that.
 
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