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royribble

royribble

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The difference in quality is tangible. Our lads tried their best but unfortunately they are what they are, triers but not quite up to the standard that money can buy.

Fortunately, our nearest rivals also slipped up so we are still, for the time being, in the play off places. With a bit of luck we may be able to blag this league and actually make it, but it will, based on the evidence of tonight, take a lot of luck. What we need is a referee that is not Kevin Friend. This guy was so transparent in his "big club" bias, it was embarrassing.

At the moment, all the luck seems to be going in our favour. fingers crossed.

Come on lads.
 
There's a big gap between the top 2 and the rest of the league, and judging on our games against them West Brom are a lot better than Leeds. No one else seems to want to get into the play offs either and if we can just get there it's a lottery and generally (tonight excluded) we're better against bigger teams who try and play pretty football. Rediscover our high press, keep players fit, especially DJ and Pearson, string a few wins together and we're golden. Keep the faith.
 
The gap between the top 2 and the rest is massive, truth be told we should have been beaten by 5 goals at least.
 
Fisher, Hughes, Browne and Pearson were non-existent.

Every player took a touch too many or was bad at dealing with being bullied by West Brom.

The same story every year for the 40+ years I've watched them, for some reason that final step-up is what limits our achievement.

Fisher had no need to leave anything on Callum Robinson, but he did and removed any chance of a revival.

Fisher is rapidly becoming a liability with less talent than Pearson, both of them good enough to know better and not do the stupid things that they seem to choose to do.
 
VICE VERSE said:
Fisher, Hughes, Browne and Pearson were non-existent.

Every player took a touch too many or was bad at dealing with being bullied by West Brom.

The same story every year for the 40+ years I've watched them, for some reason that final step-up is what limits our achievement.

Fisher had no need to leave anything on Callum Robinson, but he did and removed any chance of a revival.

Fisher is rapidly becoming a liability with less talent than Pearson, both of them good enough to know better and not do the stupid things that they seem to choose to do.
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I thought he was unlucky to get sent off, Robinson made a big issue of it and that is why Kevin no friend of ours Friend sent him off, gave West Brom all the big decisions, a very poor referee as we know. But take nothing away from West Brom they are quality.

FISHER has been a liability since he arrived, he is more than capable of a tear up and enjoys it as we do sometimes just look at the Maclean sagas etc. If he could cut that out of his game then he would be a class act.

Sadly and i don't want to be the orchestra of doom and gloom but we are simply not good enough and there are real problems with that team

1. Nugent - passed it, a Hemmings signing to try and appease the supporters, hasn't worked.
2. Stockley - finding his way after stepping up 2 leagues
3. Maguire - not good enough
4. Sinclair - struggling - but why?

So in reality we haven't got a striker and goals win games.

Hemmings and Ridsdale dare I say need to get out of this club and soon. No investement in the transfer window was pathetic, we needed a striker and have done so for 18 months, Hemmings lies continually and Ridsdale is his puppet and I am fast thinking that AN doesn't have enough about him to stand up to Ridsdale.

Defeat at Fulham and its over for me and we had a real chnace this season, just one striker would have made all the difference.

The fans/supporters have been dreadfully let down by Hemmings and if rovers win their next 2 at home they are above us and they are dross, says it all
 
spender said:
I thought he was unlucky to get sent off, Robinson made a big issue of it and that is why Kevin no friend of ours Friend sent him off, gave West Brom all the big decisions, a very poor referee as we know. But take nothing away from West Brom they are quality.
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My main gripe with Friend was he seemed to just hang around the middle of the pitch. He barely moved quicker than a slow jog last night and seemed to miss many nicks and deflections even on clearances down the line.
 
Tino said:
My main gripe with Friend was he seemed to just hang around the middle of the pitch. He barely moved quicker than a slow jog last night and seemed to miss many nicks and deflections even on clearances down the line.
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How he's reffed in the Prem is beyond me. He has a history of awful game changing decisions, not that it would've made any difference to last night's result. 2nd best in every department. I really thought we'd of gone toe to toe with them, as we did with Leeds
 
VICE VERSE said:
Fisher, Hughes, Browne and Pearson were non-existent.

Every player took a touch too many or was bad at dealing with being bullied by West Brom.

The same story every year for the 40+ years I've watched them, for some reason that final step-up is what limits our achievement.

Fisher had no need to leave anything on Callum Robinson, but he did and removed any chance of a revival.

Fisher is rapidly becoming a liability with less talent than Pearson, both of them good enough to know better and not do the stupid things that they seem to choose to do.
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Thought those 4 did alright to be honest. The only chances we had came from crosses by Fisher or Hughes.

The performance of the front 3 was extremely worrying, but Barky aside, they shouldn’t be near the squad of a promotion chasing team
 
We had a bad start, chasing the game after 6 minutes.
Nugent up front on his own will never work.
We came and showed WBA too much respect
Second goal finally killed it, we weren't too bad between 15 and 35 minutes.
Second half was pointless.
Neil should've rolled the dice at half time and took Maguire and Nugent off.
2-0 after the red was acceptable. Onto the next.
 
KeithLard said:
We had a bad start, chasing the game after 6 minutes.
Nugent up front on his own will never work.
We came and showed WBA too much respect
Second goal finally killed it, we weren't too bad between 15 and 35 minutes.
Second half was pointless.
Neil should've rolled the dice at half time and took Maguire and Nugent off.
2-0 after the red was acceptable. Onto the next.
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It wasn;t a bad start it was appalling/abysmal/pathetic marking
Nugent hasn't worked all season bar one game- impact sub at best passed it move him on,its like watchinga hoirse struggle before you eventually shhot it
Agreed on the respect
Agreed second goal killed it and on the stroke of half time, again piss poor defending - Hunts to return
Maguire not good enough- sub at best
West Brom took their foot off the gas knowing the game was won. We are not good enough
Desperatley needed a STRIKER.

Defeat at Fulham - play offs over - well done Hemmings what a gent
 
Tino said:
My main gripe with Friend was he seemed to just hang around the middle of the pitch. He barely moved quicker than a slow jog last night and seemed to miss many nicks and deflections even on clearances down the line.
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Unfortunately the ref's performance was as bad as ours. But luckily, not in a result-defining way (we were just poor), so we can't blame this one on him.

The commentators (Tommy Spurr) couldn't believe the string of poor decisions during one 5 minute spell. The offside against DJ, throws-ins given the wrong way, at one point the ref literally didn't have the foggiest idea who'd kicked the ball out of play despite him being about 7 yards away from the player. It was laughable.
 
royribble said:
The difference in quality is tangible. Our lads tried their best but unfortunately they are what they are, triers but not quite up to the standard that money can buy.

Fortunately, our nearest rivals also slipped up so we are still, for the time being, in the play off places. With a bit of luck we may be able to blag this league and actually make it, but it will, based on the evidence of tonight, take a lot of luck. What we need is a referee that is not Kevin Friend. This guy was so transparent in his "big club" bias, it was embarrassing.

At the moment, all the luck seems to be going in our favour. fingers crossed.

Come on lads.
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You're right about the difference in quality . Just look at the 3 subs they brought on . WBA are the best team in the division by a mile , they'll win it by 10 points or more .
Losing to them isn't a disaster . The bigger game is Fulham - beating a playoff rival would be massive , even a draw would be good .
 
spender said:
Nugent hasn't worked all season bar one game- impact sub at best passed it move him on,its like watchinga hoirse struggle before you eventually shhot it
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Signing a backup player as a marquee signing never ends well. No idea what the thought process was there but we got it hilariously wrong and haven't even tried to rectify it
 
Think we have to face it we are not good enough when was the last time we played well for 90 minutes, we all know the lack of quality signings especially a centre forward has come home to roost. Neil plays Newgent then drops him only to bring him back a couple of games later, he continues to pick Maguire even though it’s not working .
Sinclair has been a let down so far but I think that he doesn’t suit the system we play . We are now a team who have suddenly become a Grayson type team who seem to concentrate on stopping the opposition rather than playing to our strengths . I fear a finish like last year when the players seemed to just give up and went on holiday mode with about ten games to go. Something has to change for us to stay in a play off place , either change formation change personnel, ie Stockly or change back to the high press game and get on the front foot.
How many clean sheets have we had recently not many, the best way to defend is to attack put the opposition on the back foot I know we can’t do it all the time but we have stopped dominating games. At least show some fight and the crowd will get behind the players . Even if we don’t make the play off at least I would have some optimism if we get back to playing on the front foot and having ago , otherwise all I can see is players leaving along with Neil unfortunately .
 
Giving these early goals away makes one hell of a difference to games . Every one keep saying Davies is a 20 million defender & along with Bauer & are supposed to be one of the best partnerships in the championship.. But crosses into the box are not been Defended properly. We went through our most difficult time with Huntington in defence & got some brilliant results .leeds Fulham Cardiff he played in . Teams scoring in 1st 15 mins are killing us.
 
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