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When Will They Ever Learn?

When Will They Ever Learn?

JK said:
Just listened to Neil who reckons it was for dissent but a “undeserved” one, stated he was as frustrated with the referee as Ben was.


Pearson said reputation certainly gets him booking maybe other players wouldn’t normally get, at one point person was fouled... the referee oh his whistle to his mouth then realised who it was and ignored it and Millwall won the ball back.
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Now missing for 2 more games.. is he improving on his record.....
 
White123 said:
If any player could do that they should be playing for the best teams in the world.
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Most of them probably do.
How many of Europe's top teams include players who are constantly missing 15 games a season through suspension for picking up silly cards? Any such player would lose his place in the side while suspended to a top class player and never get the shirt back.
 
Norts 1531 said:
Yes Pearson, this is aimed at you.

I really admire the way you play, but what on earth is the point of earning yourself a yellow for having a go at the Ref? We need you a lot for this next half of the season, yet you're looking at a two-game ban. Do you honestly think that you having a go at the Ref is going to make him change his decision? Knock it off. Just shake your head, walk away, and carry on playing good games.

There really is no excuse for our players earning yellow cards for dissent at this point in the season. I understand the point about showing a bit of passion, but to do that in the Refs' face is just plain stupid. Save it for the players that we're playing against, not the officials.
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I accept your point as valid.
I would add that, as a fan, I want to see players who genuinely give a shunt.
As foolish as Ben's rant may have been, for the level of intensity it represents from the heartbeat of the side, particularly away from home, I have a modicum of forgiveness.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Most of them probably do.
How many of Europe's top teams include players who are constantly missing 15 games a season through suspension for picking up silly cards? Any such player would lose his place in the side while suspended to a top class player and never get the shirt back.
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Exactly, but we're Preston playing in the Championship. Not Barcelona, Madrid, City and Munich etc. etc.
 
Wisemen say said:
Now missing for 2 more games.. is he improving on his record.....
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I thought to pray was his ninth? Apologies if I’m wrong.

Dirty Harry said:
Most of them probably do.
How many of Europe's top teams include players who are constantly missing 15 games a season through suspension for picking up silly cards? Any such player would lose his place in the side while suspended to a top class player and never get the shirt back.
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You are getting Ben Pearson who plays for Preston North End in the English second tier mixed up with some of the best ball winning players at the top club sides in the world.

FWIW Paul Scholes, Roy Keane, Patrick Veira who where all great midfielders picked up loads of bookings and would get even more cards now as there is no argument that referees dish them out far more than they used too.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Most of them probably do.
How many of Europe's top teams include players who are constantly missing 15 games a season through suspension for picking up silly cards? Any such player would lose his place in the side while suspended to a top class player and never get the shirt back.
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Sergio ramos got 15 last season.
Pearson is a top class player for us - and I think he's unfairly treated about his bookings compared to other players. Jordan Hugil has 8, Greg Cunningham got 13 last season, Paul hungtington - 8, Dan Johnson has 7, yet doesn't know how to attempt to put a tackle in - all immune to criticism. End of the day he has adrenaline rushing through him, he's annoyed at a decision he's going to try and argue with the ref. It's difficult down there to keep your cool then it is in the stands and the amount of times I hear fans tell ref's to 'f off,' is ridiculous so if we struggle to contain our emotions then it's ten times worse for the players.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Most of them probably do.
How many of Europe's top teams include players who are constantly missing 15 games a season through suspension for picking up silly cards? Any such player would lose his place in the side while suspended to a top class player and never get the shirt back.
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15 games?

Can you count?

It is 5 cards = 1 games, 10 cards = 2 games, 15 cards = 3 games....a total of 6 games.
 
JK said:
I thought to pray was his ninth? Apologies if I’m wrong.



You are getting Ben Pearson who plays for Preston North End in the English second tier mixed up with some of the best ball winning players at the top club sides in the world.

FWIW Paul Scholes, Roy Keane, Patrick Veira who where all great midfielders picked up loads of bookings and would get even more cards now as there is no argument that referees dish them out far more than they used too.
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Yes, I know. But it was the poster I was responding to who mentioned the best teams in the world. I wasn't suggesting Pearson was playing fo those sides. At the moment, Bens dissent and fouls are probably the reasons why he never will.
 
White123 said:
No, because the 2nd one at leeds equals a red card so doesn't count as 2 yellows - it's one yellow and a red.
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It wasn't a straight red after the booking though, was it?

When a ref gives a sending off for 2 bookings he shows the second yellow and then the red, so shouldn't count as 2?

I have no idea how this works, please enlighten me somebody.
 
Mancunian White said:
It wasn't a straight red after the booking though, was it?

When a ref gives a sending off for 2 bookings he shows the second yellow and then the red, so shouldn't count as 2?

I have no idea how this works, please enlighten me somebody.
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That's what I was trying to say - Both yellows cards don't count, so Pearson has had 9 yellow cards this season.
 
White123 said:
Yes, Pearson get a few too many bookings but it's easy for us fans to sit in the stands and say stop arguing with the ref, but every time the fans think the ref is making a bad decision the majority of us swear, shout, get annoyed etc and that's without the pressure of being in a football match. Pearson probably knows he needs to cut out the dissent, but unfortunately if he feels a decision is wrong he's going to be frustrated. People who say the ref's decision is final so don't argue - yes it is, but any football match I watch in any league on any day - players argue with ref's because in that high pressure situation if you think a wrong decision has gone against you you are going to be pissed off. I'm not sticking up for Pearson but I don't blame him for reacting the way he does because the majority of players and majority of us fans would react in that way too.
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Good post.
 
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