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Why has it gone wrong?

Why has it gone wrong?

Liberation said:
An obsession with keeping a clean sheet ( see yesterdays Managerial comments ) will not catapult us into a strong play off position. All it will do ( and has done for quite a while now ) is keep us treading water before we drop ( have dropped) out of the race altogether. What on earth is the point of getting this far if you aren't going to " give it a go" during the run in?..... We don't even look like we want a playoff spot let alone win them and we've been very fortunate in not dropping even further down the table in my view......... I'm tempted to say that it's contrived but what sort of loonies( Manager and players ) would do that? ....

If we were playing at full tilt but got slapped a few times then I reckon we would all accept that but this finale is like watching pre season friendlies... It's bloody annoying and we all know we are better than this..
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Maybe the players earning a nice thick wedge every week and being in the comfort zone .... top half finish 'job done' 🙄
 
Strongbow said:
Maybe the players earning a nice thick wedge every week and being in the comfort zone .... top half finish 'job done' 🙄
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Alan Irvine mentality...............Would a professional footballer actually be happy with that? If they were then we don't want them playing for us.....Unfortunately I think you might be right, and that includes the Manager.
 
Spav said:
So on 22nd Feb we were in a good 6th position, 56 pts and a healthy goal difference of +9.
Since then we have played 7, lost 5 drawn 2, taken 2 points and seen our goal difference disappear.
Why?
The owner is the same.
The manager is the same.
The players are basically the same.
What has happened to cause such a stark and calamitous collapse in form?

I have no answers, perhaps the clever people on here can identify what has changed.
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We are either really good and the likes of Barky are unplayable or we are really shit and the likes of Barky look like they’d struggle to get back in the Morecambe team.

It’s been like this for a long time.
 
All guesses:

Lack of a decent striker
Exceptional form earlier on (DJ for example) / lack of form and confidence
Injury’s
An abandonment of preferred style of play (possibly been found out / protecting hamstrings)
Players paid in full during COVID (unlike most other teams / too comfortable not enough fear)
New signings don’t seem to be progressing / lack of genuine competition for places
Tactics too rigid, can’t adapt to other teams changing formation/tactics during games
Subs too late
 
Sutty said:
All guesses:

Lack of a decent striker
Exceptional form earlier on (DJ for example) / lack of form and confidence
Injury’s
An abandonment of preferred style of play (possibly been found out / protecting hamstrings)
Players paid in full during COVID (unlike most other teams / too comfortable not enough fear)
New signings don’t seem to be progressing / lack of genuine competition for places
Tactics too rigid, can’t adapt to other teams changing formation/tactics during games
Subs too late
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The only thing you missed out there Sutty was complete lack of ambition, although I agree with everything else you stated
 
OOOO3 said:
We are either really good and the likes of Barky are unplayable or we are really shit and the likes of Barky look like they’d struggle to get back in the Morecambe team.

It’s been like this for a long time.
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When was the last time Barky was unplayable? that be before he was transformed into a wingback/ defender.
 
The good thing about us being shite for ages is that anyone looking to buy our better players may be having second thoughts.
 
OOOO3 said:
He played centre forward last week
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The actions of a desperate manager.He's not Hugill ( none of the current squad are) yet he's one of many who have been shoehorned into playing sole striker as that's the formation we play.
To be fair he's not done bad overall in the role but it's not his best position.
 
SuffolknWhat said:
The actions of a desperate manager.He's not Hugill ( none of the current squad are) yet he's one of many who have been shoehorned into playing sole striker as that's the formation we play.
To be fair he's not done bad overall in the role but it's not his best position.
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Agreed. For me he is a right winger
 
SuffolknWhat said:
For me he's a second striker playing off a target man.Good times when he played off Hugill.
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He scored some goals and looked very dangerous, but I'm not sure it was "good times".

From Barky's first start onwards in March 2017, we only won 2 games from then all the way until the end of the season, 3-0 vs Reading and 5-0 vs Bristol City.

We won 2 in our last 12 games of the season, with 5 defeats in the last 6, the other result being a 1-1 draw at home to Rotherham, which was only their 2nd away point of the season.

I can't help but feel there is a bit of revisionism regarding the end of Grayson's reign. Yes McGeady was exciting to watch and so was Barky in a few games when he first burst onto the scene, but we weren't actually that good and lost a lot of games towards the end of that season.

It just goes to show that whilst Neil needs to re-assess things at the moment, playing 4-4-2 and putting more attacking players on the pitch won't automatically win us more points.
 
sedgwick__7 said:
He scored some goals and looked very dangerous, but I'm not sure it was "good times".

From Barky's first start onwards in March 2017, we only won 2 games from then all the way until the end of the season, 3-0 vs Reading and 5-0 vs Bristol City.

We won 2 in our last 12 games of the season, with 5 defeats in the last 6, the other result being a 1-1 draw at home to Rotherham, which was only their 2nd away point of the season.

I can't help but feel there is a bit of revisionism regarding the end of Grayson's reign. Yes McGeady was exciting to watch and so was Barky in a few games when he first burst onto the scene, but we weren't actually that good and lost a lot of games towards the end of that season.

It just goes to show that whilst Neil needs to re-assess things at the moment, playing 4-4-2 and putting more attacking players on the pitch won't automatically win us more points.
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Interesting post.

Maybe there is some rose tinted glasses with Grayson. I feel AN has delivered much better football in “batches”, but Grayson’s team performances were more consistent overall. Plus I feel Grayson was better a blooding new players.

I’m maybe old school, but I miss 442 and 2 strikers.
 
Sutty said:
Interesting post.

Maybe there is some rose tinted glasses with Grayson. I feel AN has delivered much better football in “batches”, but Grayson’s team performances were more consistent overall. Plus I feel Grayson was better a blooding new players.

I’m maybe old school, but I miss 442 and 2 strikers.
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Me too.
 
SuffolknWhat said:
The actions of a desperate manager.He's not Hugill ( none of the current squad are) yet he's one of many who have been shoehorned into playing sole striker as that's the formation we play.
To be fair he's not done bad overall in the role but it's not his best position.
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Or maybe it's because the other three options are that shit we have no alternative. (Bit harsh on Maguire as I see him more of a winger then a striker.)
The issue is we don't have anyone capable of holding the ball up.
 
There’s a few suggestions as to why things have gone wrong. Whatever they are, we have gone from a top two club in October(?) so form wise the best in the division, to our form being the worst in the division. So the heirarchy (AN, PR, TH and the rest) as a matter of urgency need to work that out and fix it.
 
pne_monster said:
There’s a few suggestions as to why things have gone wrong. Whatever they are, we have gone from a top two club in October(?) so form wise the best in the division, to our form being the worst in the division. So the heirarchy (AN, PR, TH and the rest) as a matter of urgency need to work that out and fix it.
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Currently third worst.
 
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