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Wing backs.

Wing backs.

Team is fkin shite why have we got lumbering big defenders like bamboo and Bauer who are too immobile to stand up
I wonder if someone came in for Bauer would RL sell him.
I don’t think he fits in RL plans .
Bambo is different he is strong & has a lot pace compared to Bauer who is suited more to a conventional back four .
 
That’s a worry also because it’s hard to say what would be our best formation.
We can't play any system that involves a specialist right back - so that rules out the majority. However, to try a different system for the odd game depending on the opposition shouldn't be ruled out as well. If we continue with this wing back who isn't a wing back, or a full back or a winger than we're going nowhere and would perhaps be better long term playing four at the back with Browne at right back.
 
I wonder if someone came in for Bauer would RL sell him.
I don’t think he fits in RL plans .
Bambo is different he is strong & has a lot pace compared to Bauer who is suited more to a conventional back four .
I like Bauer but if he went and his transfer fee allowed us to sign a right wing back who can also play on the right of a back three then I'd go for it. We need to change something. We're going to struggle to move on Olosunde, Evans or Maguire (Harrop will have to have his full contract paid up so that won't make a difference) so we might have to try something different. Or Ledson could be the one to go but that's even more unlikely as he's part of the Scouse mafia.
 
We can't play any system that involves a specialist right back - so that rules out the majority. However, to try a different system for the odd game depending on the opposition shouldn't be ruled out as well. If we continue with this wing back who isn't a wing back, or a full back or a winger than we're going nowhere and would perhaps be better long term playing four at the back with Browne at right back.

Or, and I know this is a truly crazy suggestion, we could just sign a decent quality, proven, specialist wing back?

Christie, Sterling, Colin, Byrne, Fossey et al. Or if we are putting all our resources in to Robbo, a raw loan option like Kesler-Hayden...
 
This is the key to the ‘wing back’ formation.
We need to play 3-5-2 for it to work as it should….yesterday as with many of our games it was more like 5-3-2.
I know it won’t happen but with the players we currently have would they not be more suited to a 4-3-1-2?
One problem with playing 4 at the back now is that - apart from Olosunde, who can't really be counted - we don't have a specialist right back. We'd end up playing Potts, Browne, McCann or, heaven forbid, Ledson there -more square pegs in round holes.
 
I can’t believe so many people have had a melt down and want the whole system and identity we are building scrapping over a point away. We just need a right wing back and we’ll be fine.

Don’t think that people are in meltdown over the system, Lowe has known from the day he walked through the door that he needed these players, they should have been the priority.
This summer goalies became an equal priority but we are still waiting for an out and out RWB.
As an aside, when we signed Fernandez most of the media described him as an attacking left back?
Not sure if Brady is an out and out LWB, where did he fit in at Burnley?

Being an old codger maybe someone could define the big difference between an attacking full back and a wing back apart from the obvious that one plays in a three at the back against the other in a four?
 
I can’t believe so many people have had a melt down and want the whole system and identity we are building scrapping over a point away. We just need a right wing back and we’ll be fine.
I was at the game and don’t remember any Wigan goals the reaction today feels like we lost heavily

Also the anti Potts and Browne campaigner’s seem to feel vindicated

Truth is a side predicted to finish mid table didn’t play at it’s best. Lots of individual errors second half made it tough to watch and it wasn’t one or two players, it didn’t click when Woodburns through ball hit Emil on the back and DJ and Hughes fresh air kicks summed it up

Lets give it a month judge the performances and whole window and then we will have a better idea

PS I too would love to get to the Prem and yes each year it does seem to be just as frustrating
 
Don’t think that people are in meltdown over the system, Lowe has known from the day he walked through the door that he needed these players, they should have been the priority.
This summer goalies became an equal priority but we are still waiting for an out and out RWB.
As an aside, when we signed Fernandez most of the media described him as an attacking left back?
Not sure if Brady is an out and out LWB, where did he fit in at Burnley?

Being an old codger maybe someone could define the big difference between an attacking full back and a wing back apart from the obvious that one plays in a three at the back against the other in a four?

You couldn’t get more of a wingback than fernandez.

Quite simple really mate. A fullback is primarily there to defend. A wingback is primarily there to attack. 🙂

I’m sure a rwb is his priority and he’s have one signed tomorrow. Ridders more likely to be the problem.
 
Back up will be handy but riis and Parrot will be more than good enough to compete at the right end of the table

But if/when a loss of form/injuries happen we're left with Ched and Maguire, so a new striker is crucial.
 
But if/when a loss of form/injuries happen we're left with Ched and Maguire, so a new striker is crucial.
Yeah, the Ryan Lowe "players now have to look over their shoulders, there's quality competition for places" is largely bollocks really.

Woodman and Hughes have no such pressure - and more glaringly, nor does Potts.

Browne never seems to be under pressure for his starting spot, and nor do Whiteman or DJ.

And who's supposed to be pushing Riis and Parrott to keep their starting spots?

It's still mostly a bunch of first XI players plus a lot of SquadFilla™.

Even the bench yesterday picked itself - I bet there's hardly anyone on here who couldn't name the entire 18 before it was announced.
 
One problem with playing 4 at the back now is that - apart from Olosunde, who can't really be counted - we don't have a specialist right back. We'd end up playing Potts, Browne, McCann or, heaven forbid, Ledson there -more square pegs in round holes.
I think Browne would make a very good right back without a problem at all. That then lets McCann have a starting role and allows DJ to be more effective in the hole behind the front two.
Unfortunately Storey, Lindsay and Hughes aren’t of the quality to play 3-5-2 effectively.
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