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Zonal Marking!

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Zonal Marking!

Last season at one stage we had 4 spaced out along the 6yard box. Hugill, Davies, Hunts and Clarke, each having their own zone and it worked quite well. Before Clarke we had the 6ft 5 Earl. Now who have we got of size to dominate those zones? Browne and Hughes are our only options with Hunts and Davies.Fisher isn’t tall,and you wouldn’t back Robinson,Johnson, Gally,Pearson,Ledson,Burke, or Barker to do the job. Even strikers Moult and Nmecha don’t appear to win headers. Part of Hugills worth was his presence at the edge of the 6 yard box imo. What to do with our current personnel that’s the problem. Zonal or man for man? Last night Fisher was outjumped by Abrahams when man for man.
 
pet shop boy said:
Last season at one stage we had 4 spaced out along the 6yard box. Hugill, Davies, Hunts and Clarke, each having their own zone and it worked quite well. Before Clarke we had the 6ft 5 Earl. Now who have we got of size to dominate those zones? Browne and Hughes are our only options with Hunts and Davies.Fisher isn’t tall,and you wouldn’t back Robinson,Johnson, Gally,Pearson,Ledson,Burke, or Barker to do the job. Even strikers Moult and Nmecha don’t appear to win headers. Part of Hugills worth was his presence at the edge of the 6 yard box imo. What to do with our current personnel that’s the problem. Zonal or man for man? Last night Fisher was outjumped by Abrahams when man for man.
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I think there's a lot of truth in this.

Zonal or man-to-man - you still have to win the battle!

This is why I'm not averse to Clarke playing RB even though he's limited in possession.
 
Nishtar36 said:
Thread is a bit misleading.

We go half half and usually have done under Neil. We usually man mark 2/3 of the opponents biggest threats and then we have another 3-4 marking zones. Usually a couple on the edge of the box as well.

So we aren’t fully zonal, as the thread makes out. E.g Moult was man marking Tuanzebe when he came on (total mismatch) but that’s whats gonna happen when we have a small squad.
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I have to admire you determination to try and discredit anything I ever post.😎

Misleading? It’s just me view and to me overall we play zonal marking maybe with a bit of mixing it up form time to time, the manager has ever discussed this issue serval times and refers to the penalty that Greg gave away at Derby being his reason for switching to Zonal.

I think we are all looking for ways for us to tighten up at the back and the amount of goals we are conceeding from crosses is unacceptable.

I would hope that Alex Neil has a better idea at me on defending set peices. However at the moment that’s debatable so I thought I would raise the point regarding marking on set plays.

I think the phrase often used when conceeding goals for fun is getting back to basics.
 
kingpne said:
Being able to blame someone shouldn’t be the reasoning to use that method. It’s which one keeps the ball out of the net best, and last season that was Zonal.
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Agree. Just cos we know who to blame doesn't make it any better. From seeing any goal go in from a corner the manager will be able to identify whose area it came from. Regardless of zonal or man to man we're just not getting the ball far enough away from the box with the first clearance.
 
JK said:
I have to admire you determination to try and discredit anything I ever post.😎

Misleading? It’s just me view and to me overall we play zonal marking maybe with a bit of mixing it up form time to time, the manager has ever discussed this issue serval times and refers to the penalty that Greg gave away at Derby being his reason for switching to Zonal.

I think we are all looking for ways for us to tighten up at the back and the amount of goals we are conceeding from crosses is unacceptable.

I would hope that Alex Neil has a better idea at me on defending set peices. However at the moment that’s debatable so I thought I would raise the point regarding marking on set plays.

I think the phrase often used when conceeding goals for fun is getting back to basics.
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We were as man to man as we were zonal from the corners you mentioned though. We didn’t conceded because of zonal marking. We conceded because of a general lack of organisation and an unlucky ricochet.
 
Last season Hugill was brought back to defend set pieces , and he won plenty in the air. Nmecha nor Moult are good in the air,plus Robbo lacks height. Browne can win his fair share but other that the defence is left on its own to defend aerial balls coming in. Huntingdon and Davies are good headers of the ball but maybe they need more help elsewhere.
 
PNEroulette said:
Last season Hugill was brought back to defend set pieces , and he won plenty in the air. Nmecha nor Moult are good in the air,plus Robbo lacks height. Browne can win his fair share but other that the defence is left on its own to defend aerial balls coming in. Huntingdon and Davies are good headers of the ball but maybe they need more help elsewhere.
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Cunningham was also very good in the air.
 
Zonal would be my preference if we had the squad for it. For example as someone mentioned above, Hunts, Davies, Earl & Hugill with a zone each, whilst Browne man marks the main threat.

Defending set pieces changes from game to game according to the opposition. One game we might do zonal with one person man to man, then the next completely man marking.
 
JK said:
In the last five of minutes of that game Villa had two corners!

Scored from one!

Conceded a penalty on the next one.

We are conceeding goals from all over the shop but with a alarming rate from crosses.

Is it time for Neil to look at our zonal marking system?
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sorry JK but last saturday v WBA was the first time I have seen us going Zonal this season - I even wondered why he had dropped the idea.

Maybe they have away games that I havent seen, but even at Swansea I noticed we werent.

Maybe the 'man for man' marking hadnt worked well either and so he has reverted to last seasons system.....


However, regardless of system, if as a defender you forearm smash an opponent in the face its not going to turn out well....
 
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