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Does it have to be a Credit Card or does the same apply for a Visa Debit card ??
I suppose it's more relevant now you've handed in your gold-plated corporate AMEX card đ
Does it have to be a Credit Card or does the same apply for a Visa Debit card ??
Does it have to be a Credit Card or does the same apply for a Visa Debit card ??
All the holidays I lost a few years ago were all refunded and we used a debit card, had no probs getting the money back , used that section 75 think it came under disputed transaction.
Please can someone tell me which is this 'Greystones' car park- has it an alternative name ?
section 75 doesn't apply to debit cards, but sounds like you might have used the chargeback function where the bank can reverse the transactions?
Iâm glad that you double checked with your credit card company and avoided the scammers winningâŚI had a phone call on Thursday last week about 9:00pm. They said it was the fraud section of my credit card provider and asked if we had ordered X costing ÂŁ350 and Y costing ÂŁ400, they informed me that it had come up on their system given the orders were being made from Aberdeen and they knew we didnât live up there but before agreeing to allow these orders to go through they needed to check with us in case we were up there on holiday. I told him that I hadnât made any order to the companies he mentioned so he asked me if my wife had made any orders and I told him know.
He then said he would put a stop on them but to do so he would have to go through my security questions first. He went through them with me and I answered them all. He also said he needed to check what my max spend on that credit card was, how we paid our monthly bill and did we pay a percentage or clear it each month, he said he needed to ask these questions just for security and that I was who I said I was. He then asked about the debit card we use to make payments when clearing the monthly amount e.g. our names on the card, our sort code on the card (he said it begins with 11 which it does), etc. He was very convincing especially when he said âyou or your wife havenât just made an order with Z for ÂŁ3,500 through ARGOS have you?â I told him we havenât so he said, âwhoever is committing this fraud is still trying to buy things so we will also stop this so it doesnât go through and we will have to cancel your cards to be on the safe side. Iâm also going to send you a temporary security number, when it comes through let me knowâ. About 10 seconds later I received a message from âTescoBankâ and he then asked me for the number which I gave him.
He then told me he would have to phone me on Friday, the next day, as he would have further questions to ask, âbutâ he said ânow we know this has happened and we have cancelled your card you should now be safe but we will keep a check on this fraud to make sure nothing goes through should they try to buy anything else during the nightâ. I thanked him for all of his help and said Iâd wait to speak to him again.
He phoned me again at about 6:00pm on Friday and went through some security questions with me again. One was âwhat was the make and type of your first car.â Whilst I could remember the type I couldnât remember the make of car so he suggested that I change that security question given I wasnât sure what the make was, he said he would have to phone me again on Saturday morning because the department that would sort out the security questions was now closed, we agreed he would phone me between 10:00 and 11:00am. He then went on to ask me further questions such as âwhen do you normally receive your credit card bill?â I told him it should be with us anytime now so we may get it on the next day otherwise itâll be after the bank holiday. He said that when we receive it there may be a few items included that they have cancelled but to go through it thoroughly to check if there is anything included that we hadnât ordered and make a note and they will try and get the money back on those items. He also said there had been a few more things that the fraudsters had tried to order but they were blocked. He said that over ÂŁ3,500s worth of orders they had tried to make on our card but they blocked them. After about 40 minutes we said our goodbyes.
There was one thing that I wasnât sure about and that was his phone number came up as âNo Caller IDâ. The next morning at 9:30 we phoned our credit card company and asked to be put through to the fraud section. We told them what had happened and asked if the phone call was legit or not and they told us that the phone call we had received the last two evening wasnât from them so I asked them if they had phoned us would a number have come up on our phone or would it be âNo Caller IDâ? They said that a phone number would show, so I then asked if our credit card had been cancelled and they said it hadnât but it would be now. Because of this we have to waite for our new card to be delivered later this week plus our new PIN number a few days later and the same with our debit card which our bank cancelled after we had contacted them explaining what had happened.
The scammer was so clever and convincing given he knew what to ask and say and given when we phoned the fraud section they asked 95% the same questions it made us think that the person who phoned us initially may have worked in a credit card fraud section themselves in the past. I always try and check who my emails are from if I donât recognise their email address and if I think it seems a bit iffy I will delete them without opening it. It is getting more and more difficult and the fraudsters are getting more clever and convincing so beware.
I personally would say "Thanks for informing me but I'll speak face to face with my bank at 9am tomorrow.I had a phone call on Thursday last week about 9:00pm. They said it was the fraud section of my credit card provider and asked if we had ordered X costing ÂŁ350 and Y costing ÂŁ400, they informed me that it had come up on their system given the orders were being made from Aberdeen and they knew we didnât live up there but before agreeing to allow these orders to go through they needed to check with us in case we were up there on holiday. I told him that I hadnât made any order to the companies he mentioned so he asked me if my wife had made any orders and I told him know.
He then said he would put a stop on them but to do so he would have to go through my security questions first. He went through them with me and I answered them all. He also said he needed to check what my max spend on that credit card was, how we paid our monthly bill and did we pay a percentage or clear it each month, he said he needed to ask these questions just for security and that I was who I said I was. He then asked about the debit card we use to make payments when clearing the monthly amount e.g. our names on the card, our sort code on the card (he said it begins with 11 which it does), etc. He was very convincing especially when he said âyou or your wife havenât just made an order with Z for ÂŁ3,500 through ARGOS have you?â I told him we havenât so he said, âwhoever is committing this fraud is still trying to buy things so we will also stop this so it doesnât go through and we will have to cancel your cards to be on the safe side. Iâm also going to send you a temporary security number, when it comes through let me knowâ. About 10 seconds later I received a message from âTescoBankâ and he then asked me for the number which I gave him.
He then told me he would have to phone me on Friday, the next day, as he would have further questions to ask, âbutâ he said ânow we know this has happened and we have cancelled your card you should now be safe but we will keep a check on this fraud to make sure nothing goes through should they try to buy anything else during the nightâ. I thanked him for all of his help and said Iâd wait to speak to him again.
He phoned me again at about 6:00pm on Friday and went through some security questions with me again. One was âwhat was the make and type of your first car.â Whilst I could remember the type I couldnât remember the make of car so he suggested that I change that security question given I wasnât sure what the make was, he said he would have to phone me again on Saturday morning because the department that would sort out the security questions was now closed, we agreed he would phone me between 10:00 and 11:00am. He then went on to ask me further questions such as âwhen do you normally receive your credit card bill?â I told him it should be with us anytime now so we may get it on the next day otherwise itâll be after the bank holiday. He said that when we receive it there may be a few items included that they have cancelled but to go through it thoroughly to check if there is anything included that we hadnât ordered and make a note and they will try and get the money back on those items. He also said there had been a few more things that the fraudsters had tried to order but they were blocked. He said that over ÂŁ3,500s worth of orders they had tried to make on our card but they blocked them. After about 40 minutes we said our goodbyes.
There was one thing that I wasnât sure about and that was his phone number came up as âNo Caller IDâ. The next morning at 9:30 we phoned our credit card company and asked to be put through to the fraud section. We told them what had happened and asked if the phone call was legit or not and they told us that the phone call we had received the last two evening wasnât from them so I asked them if they had phoned us would a number have come up on our phone or would it be âNo Caller IDâ? They said that a phone number would show, so I then asked if our credit card had been cancelled and they said it hadnât but it would be now. Because of this we have to waite for our new card to be delivered later this week plus our new PIN number a few days later and the same with our debit card which our bank cancelled after we had contacted them explaining what had happened.
The scammer was so clever and convincing given he knew what to ask and say and given when we phoned the fraud section they asked 95% the same questions it made us think that the person who phoned us initially may have worked in a credit card fraud section themselves in the past. I always try and check who my emails are from if I donât recognise their email address and if I think it seems a bit iffy I will delete them without opening it. It is getting more and more difficult and the fraudsters are getting more clever and convincing so beware.
I had a phone call on Thursday last week about 9:00pm. They said it was the fraud section of my credit card provider and asked if we had ordered X costing ÂŁ350 and Y costing ÂŁ400, they informed me that it had come up on their system given the orders were being made from Aberdeen and they knew we didnât live up there but before agreeing to allow these orders to go through they needed to check with us in case we were up there on holiday. I told him that I hadnât made any order to the companies he mentioned so he asked me if my wife had made any orders and I told him know.
He then said he would put a stop on them but to do so he would have to go through my security questions first. He went through them with me and I answered them all. He also said he needed to check what my max spend on that credit card was, how we paid our monthly bill and did we pay a percentage or clear it each month, he said he needed to ask these questions just for security and that I was who I said I was. He then asked about the debit card we use to make payments when clearing the monthly amount e.g. our names on the card, our sort code on the card (he said it begins with 11 which it does), etc. He was very convincing especially when he said âyou or your wife havenât just made an order with Z for ÂŁ3,500 through ARGOS have you?â I told him we havenât so he said, âwhoever is committing this fraud is still trying to buy things so we will also stop this so it doesnât go through and we will have to cancel your cards to be on the safe side. Iâm also going to send you a temporary security number, when it comes through let me knowâ. About 10 seconds later I received a message from âTescoBankâ and he then asked me for the number which I gave him.
He then told me he would have to phone me on Friday, the next day, as he would have further questions to ask, âbutâ he said ânow we know this has happened and we have cancelled your card you should now be safe but we will keep a check on this fraud to make sure nothing goes through should they try to buy anything else during the nightâ. I thanked him for all of his help and said Iâd wait to speak to him again.
He phoned me again at about 6:00pm on Friday and went through some security questions with me again. One was âwhat was the make and type of your first car.â Whilst I could remember the type I couldnât remember the make of car so he suggested that I change that security question given I wasnât sure what the make was, he said he would have to phone me again on Saturday morning because the department that would sort out the security questions was now closed, we agreed he would phone me between 10:00 and 11:00am. He then went on to ask me further questions such as âwhen do you normally receive your credit card bill?â I told him it should be with us anytime now so we may get it on the next day otherwise itâll be after the bank holiday. He said that when we receive it there may be a few items included that they have cancelled but to go through it thoroughly to check if there is anything included that we hadnât ordered and make a note and they will try and get the money back on those items. He also said there had been a few more things that the fraudsters had tried to order but they were blocked. He said that over ÂŁ3,500s worth of orders they had tried to make on our card but they blocked them. After about 40 minutes we said our goodbyes.
There was one thing that I wasnât sure about and that was his phone number came up as âNo Caller IDâ. The next morning at 9:30 we phoned our credit card company and asked to be put through to the fraud section. We told them what had happened and asked if the phone call was legit or not and they told us that the phone call we had received the last two evening wasnât from them so I asked them if they had phoned us would a number have come up on our phone or would it be âNo Caller IDâ? They said that a phone number would show, so I then asked if our credit card had been cancelled and they said it hadnât but it would be now. Because of this we have to waite for our new card to be delivered later this week plus our new PIN number a few days later and the same with our debit card which our bank cancelled after we had contacted them explaining what had happened.
The scammer was so clever and convincing given he knew what to ask and say and given when we phoned the fraud section they asked 95% the same questions it made us think that the person who phoned us initially may have worked in a credit card fraud section themselves in the past. I always try and check who my emails are from if I donât recognise their email address and if I think it seems a bit iffy I will delete them without opening it. It is getting more and more difficult and the fraudsters are getting more clever and convincing so beware.
Actually, this was another thing that happened to my Dad - practically the same thing. Thankfully nothing was charged as the bank alerted him but he had to get a new card.I have a workmate that once had a transaction halted by the bank as his details were being used for a purchase in Time Square ( New York)..... Seems it had been " cloned " whatever that means.............. How the hell does that happen?
I have a workmate that once had a transaction halted by the bank as his details were being used for a purchase in Time Square ( New York)..... Seems it had been " cloned " whatever that means.............. How the hell does that happen?
Since I got hit, I been extra cautous. I had a call 3 weeks ago, asking me to go through security, they asked my First Pet Name, I said Bird (I always give the wrong answer now). He asked how do I spell it. B I R D he said thank you. I said great your a scammer, he told me to F Off and said he would do my Mum tonight, Nice chap, someone you could become good friends with, if you lived in Hell. I even download an authenticator app for online stuff,. Not many use it, but you can't sign in to some websites without entering the code the app provides. I can see this becoming a widely used service. Hope you not lost anything. They are very clever.I had a phone call on Thursday last week about 9:00pm. They said it was the fraud section of my credit card provider and asked if we had ordered X costing ÂŁ350 and Y costing ÂŁ400, they informed me that it had come up on their system given the orders were being made from Aberdeen and they knew we didnât live up there but before agreeing to allow these orders to go through they needed to check with us in case we were up there on holiday. I told him that I hadnât made any order to the companies he mentioned so he asked me if my wife had made any orders and I told him know.
He then said he would put a stop on them but to do so he would have to go through my security questions first. He went through them with me and I answered them all. He also said he needed to check what my max spend on that credit card was, how we paid our monthly bill and did we pay a percentage or clear it each month, he said he needed to ask these questions just for security and that I was who I said I was. He then asked about the debit card we use to make payments when clearing the monthly amount e.g. our names on the card, our sort code on the card (he said it begins with 11 which it does), etc. He was very convincing especially when he said âyou or your wife havenât just made an order with Z for ÂŁ3,500 through ARGOS have you?â I told him we havenât so he said, âwhoever is committing this fraud is still trying to buy things so we will also stop this so it doesnât go through and we will have to cancel your cards to be on the safe side. Iâm also going to send you a temporary security number, when it comes through let me knowâ. About 10 seconds later I received a message from âTescoBankâ and he then asked me for the number which I gave him.
He then told me he would have to phone me on Friday, the next day, as he would have further questions to ask, âbutâ he said ânow we know this has happened and we have cancelled your card you should now be safe but we will keep a check on this fraud to make sure nothing goes through should they try to buy anything else during the nightâ. I thanked him for all of his help and said Iâd wait to speak to him again.
He phoned me again at about 6:00pm on Friday and went through some security questions with me again. One was âwhat was the make and type of your first car.â Whilst I could remember the type I couldnât remember the make of car so he suggested that I change that security question given I wasnât sure what the make was, he said he would have to phone me again on Saturday morning because the department that would sort out the security questions was now closed, we agreed he would phone me between 10:00 and 11:00am. He then went on to ask me further questions such as âwhen do you normally receive your credit card bill?â I told him it should be with us anytime now so we may get it on the next day otherwise itâll be after the bank holiday. He said that when we receive it there may be a few items included that they have cancelled but to go through it thoroughly to check if there is anything included that we hadnât ordered and make a note and they will try and get the money back on those items. He also said there had been a few more things that the fraudsters had tried to order but they were blocked. He said that over ÂŁ3,500s worth of orders they had tried to make on our card but they blocked them. After about 40 minutes we said our goodbyes.
There was one thing that I wasnât sure about and that was his phone number came up as âNo Caller IDâ. The next morning at 9:30 we phoned our credit card company and asked to be put through to the fraud section. We told them what had happened and asked if the phone call was legit or not and they told us that the phone call we had received the last two evening wasnât from them so I asked them if they had phoned us would a number have come up on our phone or would it be âNo Caller IDâ? They said that a phone number would show, so I then asked if our credit card had been cancelled and they said it hadnât but it would be now. Because of this we have to waite for our new card to be delivered later this week plus our new PIN number a few days later and the same with our debit card which our bank cancelled after we had contacted them explaining what had happened.
The scammer was so clever and convincing given he knew what to ask and say and given when we phoned the fraud section they asked 95% the same questions it made us think that the person who phoned us initially may have worked in a credit card fraud section themselves in the past. I always try and check who my emails are from if I donât recognise their email address and if I think it seems a bit iffy I will delete them without opening it. It is getting more and more difficult and the fraudsters are getting more clever and convincing so beware.
yup, how can you stay safe when companies can't keep themselves safe.Basically, when the databases of large Corporations are hacked, credit card numbers, social insurance numbers, email addresses and passwords end up for sale on the dark web.
Skimming devices have been around years, used to get fitted to ATMs especially the non bank ones in shops and the like. Likewise when you used to pay a restaurant or a shop and they would swipe the card through. Technically thatâs why chip and in came about as they were harder to clone.I have a workmate that once had a transaction halted by the bank as his details were being used for a purchase in Time Square ( New York)..... Seems it had been " cloned " whatever that means.............. How the hell does that happen?
Thatâs where they are meant to keep things separate or you use a payment provider like JK does here as an example, the payment details arenât in the database here etc. to make it harder for someone to combine the relevant details. I got caught in the Ticketmaster data leak a few years back, nothing untoward happened but based on their stupidity of what caused it was able to sign up to a action against them and they paid a few hundred quid even to those who hadnât lost anything as a punishment effectively for being shit with people and their dataBasically, when the databases of large Corporations are hacked, credit card numbers, social insurance numbers, email addresses and passwords end up for sale on the dark web.
Skimming devices have been around years, used to get fitted to ATMs especially the non bank ones in shops and the like. Likewise when you used to pay a restaurant or a shop and they would swipe the card through. Technically thatâs why chip and in came about as they were harder to clone.
Thatâs where they are meant to keep thing
s separate or you use a payment provider like JK does here as an example, the payment details arenât in the database here etc. to make it harder for someone to combine the relevant details. I got caught in the Ticketmaster data leak a few years back, nothing untoward happened but based on their stupidity of what caused it was able to sign up to a action against them and they paid a few hundred quid even to those who hadnât lost anything as a punishment effectively for being shit with people and their data