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Warton PNE said:
Tbh, I think that's just plastic mate.

Supporting United and going back to them because North End aren't any good is just a plastic imo. Should always support your local club over a team 50 miles away whatever the situation.

That is one of the issues we have here. We don't get enough local support which is a real shame.
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We don’t get enough support because there is no ambition. The football world has changed, everyone wants to be winners and so attach themselves to winners. What kid wants to be attached to permanent 2nd Division (at best) whilst others are talking about Europe! It’s not just match of the day anymore football games are more available to attach yourself to than just in Preston. We didn’t keep up or even attempt to.
 
Everybody iv spoken to recently is the same .it's some of the most boring football iv ever witnessed from North end at home .so stale it's unreal then you've got 50 g4s security guys thinking there the men in the black downstairs. We waste money on pointless stuff almost like it's on purpose.
 
Warton PNE said:
Of course - in no way am I saying your lad should put up with bullying because he should support PNE! Whatever makes him happy at the end of the day.

I guess my point was that even though we are absolutely crap, I know that I have had a brilliant time going onto the game with my Dad and seeing us do well (in very small periods) and I would never get that same connection if I was to go and support a big 6 side and watch from home. Personally, I don't think that football should be viewed as a TV show.

You'd probably do him a favour anyway by avoiding PNE. He'd be depressed by the time he was 15. Stick with the Karting 🤣
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Indeed mate - i want him to be a PNE fan, its the apathy and lack of ambition that is the problem. It is so BORING right now. Being bad is one thing, but there can be a siege mentality in that. Right now its like being a fan of the most forgettable team in the country.
 
noelpne said:
Just the Dullest.
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Quite possibly, we’ve actually ground out some really dull wins on the road, at home the attacking has been almost nonexistent too much side to side giving the opponents time to all get behind the ball
 
john2321 said:
It actually is considering back then we didn’t have a pot to piss in. Now we have BILLIONAIRE owners, don’t you understand that.
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Hemmings has been putting the cash in for almost 3 decades, the reason he was able to pinch everyone’s shares was because he’d put heaps into the club.
 
Loads of people on this forum wanted Derek out, now they are saying what a great team we had under his stewardship, they got what they wanted, and Maurice Lindsay trotted up, they obviously wanted him out and up stepped Peter Ridsdale, people should be careful what they wish for.
 
TheWarehouse said:
Hemmings has been putting the cash in for almost 3 decades, the reason he was able to pinch everyone’s shares was because he’d put heaps into the club.
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And there was me thinking he'd held a gun to the heads of shareholders saying "sell, or HMRC don't get paid and the club goes under" 🙄
 
TheWarehouse said:
Loads of people on this forum wanted Derek out, now they are saying what a great team we had under his stewardship, they got what they wanted, and Maurice Lindsay trotted up, they obviously wanted him out and up stepped Peter Ridsdale, people should be careful what they wish for.
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Are you saying piss-poor decision-making is inevitable under any Hemmings ownership?
 
Warton PNE said:
Tbh, I think that's just plastic mate.

Supporting United and going back to them because North End aren't any good is just a plastic imo. Should always support your local club over a team 50 miles away whatever the situation.

That is one of the issues we have here. We don't get enough local support which is a real shame.
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He went to Hull with me on one of the Coaches. In common with most Nobbers of all ages who went he thought they were poor in the first half and bucked-up a bit in the 2nd, albeit with Lowe forced to bring Bambo on - one of the bit brighter sparks plus someone who with the ball who actually could both look-up and/or put their foot on the ball.(DJ) But in the end we still only had about TWO shots and neither one on target.
Then we went home on the Coach . About the last third of our particular coach was made up of lads his age group ( say 11 to 14 inc ) They all - all followed the Prem. Updates on their iPhones etc etc - looking at the 'best bits+goals' that are there for the Consumer. Make no doubt about it - these lads are simply consumers, media-savvy, responding to what's put out there by the Media. It's run hand in hand with the advertisers for trainers, gambling, fizzy sports drinks, etc etc - and these young guys on the bus are Target #1.
All the lads "followed" one or t'other of these Big Six Media darlings. One lad jokingly "confessed" he' changed his allegiance, ( but not in any apologectic way, it was more in a 'fashion' way - to do with the shirt design...
Yes, seriously. But they all went to Hull.
These lads want to be entertained. They don't have a sense of 'duty' to watch their hometown club come Rain or Shine. Would I , if I was 12..... Good question. I think the lads would probably be enjoying each others cameraderie more on awaydays , than at Deepdale. It's kinda a band-of-mates / craic thing that they can't get at Deepdale.

I'm willing to bet there wasn't the media bs or sports media monopolisation when you were aged 11 - 14. The times have moved on, for good or ill. The times have moved on. People in that age group are 'targets' - but we ain't , Warton.

Interesting that Shitpool's attendance yesterday was about a thou. more than the Plastics was at Sadwood Park.
But neither have Billionaire owners. It's bloody sickening.No investment with these Bastards.
 
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Like @llanroc says I can't see us winning at home against Wigan guessing a draw and a point at Rotherham. I am going on Saturday but really can't be arsed tbh. Only seen 1 win at Deepdale v Boro few Draws and defeats 😟
 
This is my main issue at the moment. From an outside perspective, it looks like he's doing a decent job on a low budget but those outsiders don't see the state of the actual football we're playing.

It's just so tediously boring. This squad is capable of playing good football in my opinion, I think it's a decision from the manager to play this way.
 
KeithLard said:
Indeed - I'm now planning for my son to "want" to be a fan of either Liverpool or Man United - which I can't accept. So I'm working out which team is the least annoying "elite" team to be acceptable to support alongside PNE... Any ideas? I can think of reasons against all of them, the only ones less annoying than the others are Arsenal and Tottenham. But still I feel like I'm cheating just considering it - even though I know it will happen!
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The answer is staring you in the face, Mr Lard. Ask yourself, what your 9 year old self would do? He chose an elite team.

Come home, good sir.
 
BPIG - GBNF said:
This is my main issue at the moment. From an outside perspective, it looks like he's doing a decent job on a low budget but those outsiders don't see the state of the actual football we're playing.

It's just so tediously boring. This squad is capable of playing good football in my opinion, I think it's a decision from the manager to play this way.
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It is the manager's prerogative - these players showed glimpses last season in the first third of Ryan Lowe's tenure that they could play expansive football - we even saw it at home at the start of the season too. But over time, this has eroded and for whatever reason he feels the best way to play is it sit and soak up pressure and nick something. I don't know the reason why - does he not believe in these players to do his bidding in alignment to the bravado?

It's crap and self limiting for all involved.
 
Joanpne said:
We don’t get enough support because there is no ambition. The football world has changed, everyone wants to be winners and so attach themselves to winners. What kid wants to be attached to permanent 2nd Division (at best) whilst others are talking about Europe! It’s not just match of the day anymore football games are more available to attach yourself to than just in Preston. We didn’t keep up or even attempt to.
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Remember the days when an entire family voted the same way? 'We are Labour in this family' etc.. Today, people are far less likely to do as their parents did. I look upon football the same way. A whole family would watch their home town team. How many diehard North Enders are there? The ones who pay and watch absolutely every season? Naturally, the older ones join the Gentry and there kids and grandkids don't replace them. There are also so many other things to now do on a Saturday. Plus, unbeknownst to the likes of Hemmings and Ridsdale, the rest of us are feeling a colossal financial squeeze.
If the above is to be reversed, the boardroom needs to wake up to the fact that football must entertain. We support our club to see fight, commitment, goals and entertainment. We don't expect to win every match. However, we do expect our football manager to know more about the game than we do... and I don't reckon he does!
The ball is very literally with Hemmings. Even if we scramble three points against the Pie Eaters, the next defeat is around the corner. For crying out loud, give Lowe his P45, allow the lads to play with purpose and give us masochists who love OUR football club something to look forward to next season.
 
Joanpne said:
We don’t get enough support because there is no ambition. The football world has changed, everyone wants to be winners and so attach themselves to winners. What kid wants to be attached to permanent 2nd Division (at best) whilst others are talking about Europe! It’s not just match of the day anymore football games are more available to attach yourself to than just in Preston. We didn’t keep up or even attempt to.
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In the v. Old Days there was one, 'Big' Match featured on Beeb' s "Match of the Day" . The game covered featured about a third of the whittled-down game. They were the genuine highlights. Eventually there were a couple of others joining in, and not at all much 'expert analysis '. Add to all that ITV's equivalent on Sunday afternoons, and that was all we got from one w/e to the next.
Now MoD is simply a goals-only plus 'experts' magazine , plus there's MoD2 . Meanwhile the other 3 Leagues get passed around some cheapo channels like a slightly whiffy parcel .
All the money is with the Premier League via SKY / BT etc. And now it's wall to wall Prem. & Europe inc. Europa for 5 nights & days out of every 7. Why go out? And if you go out most younger drinkers would include the Pubs with a SKY licence.
There's no room for the Championship in this equation. Parachute payments are the final kick in the goolies to preserve the status quo of the Prem. It's the same Boro's, Norwich, WBA's plus now the chuffing Dingles. PNE's owners can't see this, now , anymore than when it was the Dead Hand of TrevBoss. A f***ing Billionaire.
What percentage of a town's lads want to choose his home town club over something he can see on the screen ? Something that actually entertains him.
And in the 'good old' days lots of NorthEnders didn't go on, if they knew Tom wasn't playing. Were they not going on because they were plastic, back in 1955, or not going on because they wanted to be entertained, and instead went fishing or summat, instead ?
 
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