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In the v. Old Days there was one, 'Big' Match featured on Beeb' s "Match of the Day" . The game covered featured about a third of the whittled-down game. They were the genuine highlights. Eventually there were a couple of others joining in, and not at all much 'expert analysis '. Add to all that ITV's equivalent on Sunday afternoons, and that was all we got from one w/e to the next.
Now MoD is simply a goals-only plus 'experts' magazine , plus there's MoD2 . Meanwhile the other 3 Leagues get passed around some cheapo channels like a slightly whiffy parcel .
All the money is with the Premier League via SKY / BT etc. And now it's wall to wall Prem. & Europe inc. Europa for 5 nights & days out of every 7. Why go out? And if you go out most younger drinkers would include the Pubs with a SKY licence.
There's no room for the Championship in this equation. Parachute payments are the final kick in the goolies to preserve the status quo of the Prem. It's the same Boro's, Norwich, WBA's plus now the chuffing Dingles. PNE's owners can't see this, now , anymore than when it was the Dead Hand of TrevBoss.
What percentage of a town's lads want to choose his home town club over something he can see on the screen ?
There are also a lot of people now watching games via the, "Dodgy Box," medium. Ive no idea how but its something the game, below the prem, have to get a grip on. My answer, FWIW, would be for clubs to be able to legally broadcast the games for a fair price on Saturdays. It would be far better if this cash flow went to clubs rather than providers of dodgy streams.
 
There are also a lot of people now watching games via the, "Dodgy Box," medium. Ive no idea how but its something the game, below the prem, have to get a grip on. My answer, FWIW, would be for clubs to be able to legally broadcast the games for a fair price on Saturdays. It would be far better if this cash flow went to clubs rather than providers of dodgy streams.
It's some kind of "stick" that a user simply plugs into the telly ( or, don't quote me on that - could be their Laptop & then 'bounced' to their telly 'cos the screen's bigger/sharper ) - and away they go. Very simple.

okay I'm tech-ignoramus. I'll survive.🙂
 
Hemmings has been putting the cash in for almost 3 decades, the reason he was able to pinch everyone’s shares was because he’d put heaps into the club.
Up to that point he'd Yes, put heaps into the Club, as one of the Directors. Then the HMRC non-payment 'scandal' broke. ( Under his "watch" all along,it could definitely be argued )
Of everyone, he was the single Director who was able, at that point, to make a legitimate offer to legally buy everybody else's shares - but at his knock-down offer price, in order to buy that company. Technically, you or I could have done so, if we had the Dosh. Then he paid the tax bill.
None of that above, would really cheese the fans, supporters, followers etc etc off , mind ,
- IF this BILLIONAIRE guy had put a decent amount of money ( yeh, his own - it's always their own , as with all "bankrolled" clubs like Man City , Chelsea etc ) - into the Club, rather than the bog-minimum he did.

Oh, and NOT employ someone who'd taken a Champions League Club to the 3rd tier + screw-up at Barnsley, Plymouth, and Cardiff. As well.

Just what the F**k was Mr.TrevBoss thinking?

O. M. G.
 
And there was me thinking he'd held a gun to the heads of shareholders saying "sell, or HMRC don't get paid and the club goes under" 🙄
yeah & who fed that guff to the hmrc / press? & some gormless fans lapped it up hailing him as the messiah, as if a guy who had sat at pne since leeming / woodhouse / before was suddenly going to turn into jack walker, hemmings got what he wanted & imo hes lumbered his family with it (who i feel are blameless in this )
 
I think where we have missed a huge opportunity here is those fans who have purchased their first season tickets. Yes most of the kids/youngsters are probably (plastic fans) - IE support United or Liverpool. But realistically those kind of kids are never going to watch their team live unless they are lucky or are going to pay hundreds of pounds for one game. This was an opportunity for this club to provide local youngsters with weekly real live football for a very good price, in the hope that they get hooked to PNE. But in order for them to 'get hooked' the football and results at home needed to be good...It hasn't been, classic north end decided to have their worst home record to coincide with the record season ticket sales.
 
I think where we have missed a huge opportunity here is those fans who have purchased their first season tickets. Yes most of the kids/youngsters are probably (plastic fans) - IE support United or Liverpool. But realistically those kind of kids are never going to watch their team live unless they are lucky or are going to pay hundreds of pounds for one game. This was an opportunity for this club to provide local youngsters with weekly real live football for a very good price, in the hope that they get hooked to PNE. But in order for them to 'get hooked' the football and results at home needed to be good...It hasn't been, classic north end decided to have their worst home record to coincide with the record season ticket sales.
well said
 
It's pretty much gone back to the Westley days for me at home. We huff and puff for 10 mins and look like we might do alright. We concede a ridiculously stupid goal either through sheer incompetence or ignorance. Heads go down and we do absolutely fuck all for the remainder of the game.

Odd games pop up like Luton on Wednesday where our opponents can't hit a cows arse with a banjo and we somehow nick a goal back but as for The majority we just spend the rest of the game passing the ball around our back line with the occasional punt up to the keeper.

The football ( HA HA HA) is absolutely turgid to watch. In fact it's worse than turgid but I can't think of a better one. Unless things change and change soon I can see next year being our lowest season ticket sales for some time. I still haven't decided if I will be amongst those attending or not.
 
Jesus Christ, BILLIONAIRES do not throw money away, that’s why they are BILLIONAIRES. what BILLIONAIRE would throw that amount of money away, NONE !
First Group of Footie club owners. Two examples :-
A Club like Chelsea was/is a Hobby for someone like Roman Abramovich. Ditto,
A club like City is a Hobby for someone like
Sheikh Manseour or whatever his name is. 3rd example is NUFC. All Billionaires, with a big train set. A hobby.
Second Group of Footie Club owners..... An example would be Liverpool. Owned by a consortium of Americans, who also own Stateside soccer clubs/ American Football, Baseball/ Basketball etc. These people treat their Clubs as assets , and get their income from these Clubs. They have had to invest in their Clubs, to get their 'reward' / income. Not a train set, not a hobby. Burnley might be considered included in this group, now, ( but with them, there were valid fears amongst the Dingles that they would become some sort of
'shotgun-shack Man Utd' , who have been led down the Garden Path since being sold to the Glaziers ). Probably the most stable long-term group of the three, because the one company is only part of their 'portfolio'.

A third group would include owners of Clubs like Middlesbrough, Wigan under Whelan, Blackburn under Walker, Bournmouth, and Brighton. Fan-led owners, who usually have had limited, but even so, definite success.
These guys are/have been Millionaires, during their lifetime, and simply love their Local Club / Local Town. When they die, the Club they bankrolled - very often settles down to their 'natural' level.

No doubt about it, some BILLIONAIRES - and even 'simply' Millionaires might be considered as wasteful to even be a director - and their own accountants might consider their clients to be "throwing their money away". Or, it could be just a tax-losing "shelter" to save other parts of their fortune going to HMRC .
 
I don't agree, Thracia. If there is a football club on your doorstep, I believe you should support them. A majority have no real connection to Manchester United/Liverpool (other than they win things). Football isn't a TV show. I would much rather go to a match and watch us get slapped 4-0 then watching a team 50 miles away via my Sky Sports Season Ticket. Just my take.



My Dad is from Preston. My Mum is from Wallasey. My Mum's brother has travelled all over the globe watching Liverpool. He has stories about when they won the European Cup in Rome/Paris. Beating Chelsea to win the League in the 80's and he was in Madrid the other year when they won the Champions League.

I could have quite easily followed that glory but I didn't because I decided to follow my local side and follow my Dad's team (a truly terrible decision, of course). However, my point is, I chose Preston because I grew up there and I feel a sense of belonging at Deepdale. I would never feel that an Anfield or United. At 13 you are more than old enough to make that decision. I had friends bullying me constantly about us in League 1 as they were all fans of big 6 sides. But in reality, I know that if we ever get some sort of success the enjoyment I will get from that will be 10 times more than what they will get when they win something with them watching it on TV.


fan having a pop at fans, you sound like Lowey
 
There are also a lot of people now watching games via the, "Dodgy Box," medium. Ive no idea how but its something the game, below the prem, have to get a grip on. My answer, FWIW, would be for clubs to be able to legally broadcast the games for a fair price on Saturdays. It would be far better if this cash flow went to clubs rather than providers of dodgy streams.


or just ban tv cameras completely, if you want to watch live footy then attend, income would tumble, players wages would tumble and these bastard agents would fuck off too.
 
I think where we have missed a huge opportunity here is those fans who have purchased their first season tickets. Yes most of the kids/youngsters are probably (plastic fans) - IE support United or Liverpool. But realistically those kind of kids are never going to watch their team live unless they are lucky or are going to pay hundreds of pounds for one game. This was an opportunity for this club to provide local youngsters with weekly real live football for a very good price, in the hope that they get hooked to PNE. But in order for them to 'get hooked' the football and results at home needed to be good...It hasn't been, classic north end decided to have their worst home record to coincide with the record season ticket sales.
This hits the nail on the head.
Us, older fans are hardened to the disappointment. The first time younger fans who have bought into the club promotion (season card's) it has been so, so disappointing, what is it 8/9 home goals, dire football, absolutely criminal from all those running this proud football club. There is real trouble ahead unless change is not made.
How I hope for"the whites "or "chip "to announce some inside information on a potential new owner . Anything to break this horrible situation.
 
Its a very good point but sadly will never happen.
I'm just waiting - just - for this European Super League to come along, and for the Big top 6/7 Clubs to begger off. They will organise their own TV stuff and leave a lot more level playing field. OK so PNE will never go head to head at Emerates or Old Trafford ever again (except in the FA Cup ?) but lbh, would that ever happen unless some Arab sheikh buys us ?
I'm being realistic, not what was the reality in year 1938. Or even 1958.
It's just a case of time, this Super League.
( Imo )
 
Loads of people on this forum wanted Derek out, now they are saying what a great team we had under his stewardship, they got what they wanted, and Maurice Lindsay trotted up, they obviously wanted him out and up stepped Peter Ridsdale, people should be careful what they wish for.
Go and ask Fans of Leeds , Barnsley, Cardiff & Plymouth and then report back here in a few weeks. No obligations.
 
There are also a lot of people now watching games via the, "Dodgy Box," medium. Ive no idea how but its something the game, below the prem, have to get a grip on. My answer, FWIW, would be for clubs to be able to legally broadcast the games for a fair price on Saturdays. It would be far better if this cash flow went to clubs rather than providers of dodgy streams.

It's some kind of "stick" that a user simply plugs into the telly ( or, don't quote me on that - could be their Laptop & then 'bounced' to their telly 'cos the screen's bigger/sharper ) - and away they go. Very simple.

okay I'm tech-ignoramus. I'll survive.🙂
Mods, please delete, these things dont exist..
 
At the moment it’s very much looking like next season’s crowd will be several thousand down on this years . so for those like me a season ticket holder it will mean my son won’t probably go on the few games we’ve both attended home and away for a few years and in turn my grandson who is just getting to an age where he might get the PNE bug , so that could will be a loss of three generations. .
It’s been a long time since I’ve been so disillusioned with the club as a whole from the owners to Ridsdale to the manager and the type of football I have witnessed these last few years . In the old days of Malcom whoodhouse and Keith Leeming we rarley heard from them but we didn’t get condescending messages or threats of police action , social media is a fact of life nowadays but once again the club have totally failed to communicate in a positive and proper way with the fan base . How many times has the question been asked of the owners, what are their plans to try and progress things on and off the pitch only to be told we are looking at options to relocate the tent and maybe fix the leaking roof .
The football for three seasons has been some of the worst I’ve witnessed at Deepdale in my 50 years plus of watching PNE . what Is the future under this ownership or more probably is there one .
 
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