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Declan rudd

All keepers make errors - even the great Alan Kelly Snr did so on occasion. As the commentators agreed yesterday Rudd is highly unlikely to be guilty of any such lack of concentration again in future. Remember he also pulled off a very good double just a minute later. Let's move on.
 
ernest;n3407894 said:
Rudd is highly unlikely to be guilty of any such lack of concentration again in future

He's made several other errors this season, why is this more likely to be his last one than the others? I understand the argument that all keepers make mistakes but this isn't an isolated one, surely after a certain number it becomes a pattern rather than an occasional mistake like every keeper has.
 
There's been too much now for this to carry on - Rudd has had his time at North End. He's a decent enough 'keeper but there looks to be a problem mentally now and to address it he needs to be somewhere else. No-one here can trust him now.
 
If it was a misjudgement , poor timing ,reckless attempt , over ambitious , I could take it. But ...... lack of concentration ...? . My grandma would have saved it .... not good enough ..I travelled hours from West Country and felt so p...d off ! I have previously been in favour of Rudd .,,, but he’s blown it! We need a new keeper.
 
Delaney;n3407896 said:
He's made several other errors this season, why is this more likely to be his last one than the others? I understand the argument that all keepers make mistakes but this isn't an isolated one, surely after a certain number it becomes a pattern rather than an occasional mistake like every keeper has.

I don't think any of his other errors were of that sort. But it has happened and it is up to Rudd to learn from it. For what it is worth I actually prefer Maxwell.
 
ernest;n3407906 said:
I don't think any of his other errors were of that sort. But it has happened and it is up to Rudd to learn from it. For what it is worth I actually prefer Maxwell.

The bottom line is that they are all errors which definitely cost us goals. As simo says, I fail to see how any of the staff or players can truly trust him again after this. We have to sign a keeper.
 
I cant believe no-on else has spotted this but the ball bounces on a hole on the 6 yard box before it comes to him and it changes the direction of the ball. Please go back and watch it again and you can see him look at that actual point as it goes in the net. Granted he should be ready for that but thats one of those freak things that happens once in a blue moon. Hes been immense for the last few games and should keep his position.
 
Just reading around Twitter and Pickford is getting similar abuse but yet nobody is on about Salah and his mis-kick when he was in a scoring position. Who'd want to be a GK.
 
zwebbhead;n3407951 said:
I cant believe no-on else has spotted this but the ball bounces on a hole on the 6 yard box before it comes to him and it changes the direction of the ball. Please go back and watch it again and you can see him look at that actual point as it goes in the net. Granted he should be ready for that but thats one of those freak things that happens once in a blue moon. Hes been immense for the last few games and should keep his position.

I noticed that too, not as much deviation but similar to one that Tim Flowers did a few years ago. I think Rudd was expecting it to bounce up higher than it did. Having said that he ignored the absolute golden rule of goalkeeping - when you are gathering the ball always have something behind it. His feet should have been together and that way it would have hit his legs. Better still he should have been advancing towards the ball (it was on its 2nd bounce) down on one knee with his trailing leg behind and gathering with both arms. What is more perplexing is that surely Neil must have drummed in the importance of keeping things tight for the first 20 minutes and frustrating Birmingham and their fans, which makes his over casual approach even more unbelievable. As has been said Rudd and Maxwell have both saved us plenty of times this season, but crucially the defence must now have lost confidence in both of them. I understand all the calls for a replacement keeper, but both fullback positions are suspect. Clarke is getting by on strength and determination, while Fisher has been dismal this season. At Left Back Earl is understandable very green and positional sense is suspect, while Hughes offers very going forwards. If Rudd isn't selected on Saturday then I think we will move him on to a lower league club in January. While it isn't directly responsible for Rudd survive clanger, trying to fill the Goalkeeping Coach role with a rookie, non-ex pro can't be helping either keeper and once again is the cheap option - thanks Trev......
 
I've always preferred Maxwell to Rudd. I prefer keepers who are proactive & take ownership, rather than a keeper who stays glued to his line & leaves crosses in to the 6 yard box for defenders to deal with.End of.
You have to have some sympathy for Rudd for the embarrassment & ridicule inflicted after his error. But lets not ignore the fact that this was a schoolboy error, with a complete lack of concentration & he ignored the basics of goalkeeping. Sloppiness has cost the team. It can be harped on that he should keep his place to show that he is backed & not to impact on his confidence. But what impact would that have on Maxwell, who in my view is the better keeper?

Lastly, it has been noticeable that there has been a noticeable drop in the form of both of our keepers since the departure of Alan Kelly. I don't want to knock our current coach who is trying to make his way in the profession, but at the end of the day pro's are coached by ex pro's. He should be an assistant to an experienced ex pro coach. The fact that a club that is supposedly aspiring to be in the upper echelons of the Championship, allows this situation to continue is unforgiveable
 
We all know he's not good enough but we're stuck till January, Maxwell should be number 1 but we need better than both of them.

Can't see Hemmings backing Neil on this one though.
 
To repeat what I poted on another thread

Of course Rudd made a bad mistake on Saturday, as did Maxwell rushing out when not necessary. But that said both are NOT bad keepers at THIS level and if you go out and sign another with the money the Owner is likely to make available what’s to say he won't make the 'odd blunder' too.

With four forwards out for a long time (Maguire, Robinson, Bodin and Harrop) I would suggest if there is any cash available in January that is where it should be spent. Indeed as many of us posted it should have been spent on that pre-season.

However if Bournemouth (as reported) are prepared to spend 7mil to get Robinson in January injured or not, that with make Uncle Trevor very happy indeed, no doubt he will think that again he can be replaced by someone from Eire, Scotland or League 2. Under his guidance and penny pinching, this Club is going nowhere, why should we surprised, we have heard promises for years, never backed up by real action.
 
sf;n3407967 said:
We all know he's not good enough but we're stuck till January, Maxwell should be number 1 but we need better than both of them.

Can't see Hemmings backing Neil on this one though.

That statement is so wrong we don't all know he's not good enough he is a good keeper just needs to cut out the ridiculous occasional error
 
BeteNoir;n3408006 said:
That statement is so wrong we don't all know he's not good enough he is a good keeper just needs to cut out the ridiculous occasional error

In the 12 games he's played this season, he's probably made mistakes which have cost us a goal in 4-5 times. (Derby (x2 ?), Bolton, Leeds, Birmingham. That's not 'occasional', that's simply not being good enough.

I also think the first goal we conceded at Norwich was very questionable goalkeeping, as was the third one at Birmingham on Saturday. Shots going across him from that sort of angle always seem to go in.

Add that to him constantly being glued to his line and he really does not look like a Championship level goalkeeper.
 
BeteNoir;n3408006 said:
That statement is so wrong we don't all know he's not good enough he is a good keeper just needs to cut out the ridiculous occasional error

Not sure what to say to that, the guy has done nothing to show he's worthy of starting games in the Championship, regular mistakes, no presence.. Sedgwick has covered it really.

It's not even a case of him being a scapegoat now, his mistakes can't be avoided.

He was crap for Charlton too, his only good spell in his entire career was when he had probably the best defensive unit in League One in front of him.

He'll have the odd solid game now and then, but they're not a regularity.
 
sf;n3408016 said:
Not sure what to say to that, the guy has done nothing to show he's worthy of starting games in the Championship, regular mistakes, no presence.. Sedgwick has covered it really.

It's not even a case of him being a scapegoat now, his mistakes can't be avoided.

He was crap for Charlton too, his only good spell in his entire career was when he had probably the best defensive unit in League One in front of him.

He'll have the odd solid game now and then, but they're not a regularity.

And that was 5 years ago!!

So what's happened to him since??
 
Birmingham's second and third goals were well placed shots across Rudd into the far corners. No goalkeeper wants to be beaten at their near post (as he was at Derby and see Spurs first goal at Arsenal yesterday).
 
Beersoulman;n3407903 said:
If it was a misjudgement , poor timing ,reckless attempt , over ambitious , I could take it. But ...... lack of concentration ...? . My grandma would have saved it .... not good enough ..I travelled hours from West Country and felt so p...d off ! I have previously been in favour of Rudd .,,, but he’s blown it! We need a new keeper.

So Gallaghers in between the posts on Saturday then?
 
Tino;n3408018 said:
And that was 5 years ago!!

So what's happened to him since??

Based on his general demeanour i'd maybe question his attitude. In reality he's not as good as he himself thinks he is.......a bit like Joe Hart.
Hopefully for him it will act as a massive wake up call. If he can get over it and work on his game he still has time to improve and become a much better keeper
 
John T;n3407995 said:
To repeat what I poted on another thread

Of course Rudd made a bad mistake on Saturday, as did Maxwell rushing out when not necessary. But that said both are NOT bad keepers at THIS level and if you go out and sign another with the money the Owner is likely to make available what’s to say he won't make the 'odd blunder' too.

With four forwards out for a long time (Maguire, Robinson, Bodin and Harrop) I would suggest if there is any cash available in January that is where it should be spent. Indeed as many of us posted it should have been spent on that pre-season.

However if Bournemouth (as reported) are prepared to spend 7mil to get Robinson in January injured or not, that with make Uncle Trevor very happy indeed, no doubt he will think that again he can be replaced by someone from Eire, Scotland or League 2. Under his guidance and penny pinching, this Club is going nowhere, why should we surprised, we have heard promises for years, never backed up by real action.

If we sell Robinson for £7m I will walk up and down Fishergate completely naked for 24 hours straight and then immediately find Hemmings and chop his flaccid old cock off. Absolutely fucking no chance.
 
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