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Down the table

On the bright side, we're still 3rd... plenty more games left and we won't face tougher tests than the three we've just faced.
I’m not sure WBA at home was going to be one of the tougher tests but they well and truly battered us. Positives from the Leicester and Ipswich games but ultimately we got thumped in both and our defence is a shambles. We were riding our luck a little but this is the reality. I still see no reason why we can’t take 6th spot if we get back to basics.
 
We’ve been beaten by 3 better teams no doubt about that .
We pretty much failed against Rotherham and Plymouth and Brimingham could easily have gone the other way. we certainly rode our luck and you cant build a team on luck, certainly not one that wants to challenge.
Dont get me wrong it's great when its going your way but i think it has masked the frailties that are still there.
 
We pretty much failed against Rotherham and Plymouth and Brimingham could easily have gone the other way. we certainly rode our luck and you cant build a team on luck, certainly not one that wants to challenge.
Dont get me wrong it's great when its going your way but i think it has masked the frailties that are still there.
Nowhere near enough resilience I agree.
Like last season we started the season being difficult to score against and then start conceding for fun. I know Storey and Hughes have been missing but it’s disappointing that it has resulted in the entire defence collapsing.
 
Nowhere near enough resilience I agree.
Like last season we started the season being difficult to score against and then start conceding for fun. I know Storey and Hughes have been missing but it’s disappointing that it has resulted in the entire defence collapsing.

The issue is when you take out two of your main three defenders and then a third one goes off injured it’s going to have some sort of affect on the team. Storey and hughes had a shocker last Saturday but the majority of the time they put in 7 out of 10 performances.

The back up defenders just ain’t good enough. God knows why Bauer is still here. He’s been dreadful since his injury. Why did we offer Cunningham a new deal. It’s lazy recruitment by the club. I had absolutely no issue with bambo going. He wouldn’t have help matters but keeping Cunningham and Bauer won’t either. This absolutely needs addressing in jan. The first defence on its day is good but as soon as injury hits we are shambolic.
 
On the bright side, we're still 3rd... plenty more games left and we won't face tougher tests than the three we've just faced.
I'm not so sure about that.
A few of the big teams are on the up now.
Leeds being one of them.
We need to start being able to compete with these teams, if we want to get to where we wanna be.
It's as simple as that.
Not just going up against them an surrendering
 
Get the break over and hopefully get the lads together for some training and some injured players back and we will be fine.
If not then the lot of them are welcome to meet my friends lively mating bull in longridge who will certainly inject them with some sense of urgency and spatial awareness.
 
The issue is when you take out two of your main three defenders and then a third one goes off injured it’s going to have some sort of affect on the team. Storey and hughes had a shocker last Saturday but the majority of the time they put in 7 out of 10 performances.

The back up defenders just ain’t good enough. God knows why Bauer is still here. He’s been dreadful since his injury. Why did we offer Cunningham a new deal. It’s lazy recruitment by the club. I had absolutely no issue with bambo going. He wouldn’t have help matters but keeping Cunningham and Bauer won’t either. This absolutely needs addressing in jan. The first defence on its day is good but as soon as injury hits we are shambolic.
I agree with most of this, but...
Moyes managed to find ways to win when the defence was shot - Adam Eaton left back and Rob Edwards at right back is one that sticks out, we still beat WBA that night.
Craig Brown managed a win away at West Ham with Cresswell playing the back end of the game at RCB.
The points I'm making are: a) it's still possible to find a way when you have injuries and b) with a full squad, conceding 3s and 4s against good teams has become the norm for us under Lowe.
We'll see how we react now. He's definitely grown as a manager and now we'll see by how much - will what he said after the game yesterday actually happen? If Brady starts the next game, we'll know he was just spouting off.
 
I agree with most of this, but...
Moyes managed to find ways to win when the defence was shot - Adam Eaton left back and Rob Edwards at right back is one that sticks out, we still beat WBA that night.
Craig Brown managed a win away at West Ham with Cresswell playing the back end of the game at RCB.
The points I'm making are: a) it's still possible to find a way when you have injuries and b) with a full squad, conceding 3s and 4s against good teams has become the norm for us under Lowe.
We'll see how we react now. He's definitely grown as a manager and now we'll see by how much - will what he said after the game yesterday actually happen? If Brady starts the next game, we'll know he was just spouting off.
Good points on both sides. I think the game has evolved since Moyes was with us - much faster and players who are either not match fit and/or simply out of position, especially in defence against fast players will struggle. But, I also think that in Moyes's day, the rest of the team stood stronger. We need a Gregan to get some fire into bellies!
 
Possibly , but 10th place are only 3 points behind us…..

I think we will find our correct level in the next two weeks.
End of November will show us how it’s going to pan out.

Looking so far I’d say we’ve ridden our luck to top then now we are getting battered and are easy to play against going forward.

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End of November will show us how it’s going to pan out.

Looking so far I’d say we’ve ridden our luck to top then now we are getting battered and are easy to play against going forward.

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Agreed Ken...

We will finish 12th to 15th which I am okay with, punching above our weight..
 
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