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paddysr

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We are at the stage now where it is completely evident that what we have needs improving on.

I'm not sure Earl is the answer as he has come out himself and said he sees himself as a LCB (sorry to those I've bersted over the last 3 years that have been saying it all along!)

If we can't get Fisher fit, and tied down to a new contract we arguably need to strengthen both sides.

Until we are able to do so I'm not sure what the answer is.

Rafferty, while some seem to rate him, is very limited technically and has been massively at fault for a number of our goals this season and Hughes while solid in the air doesn't offer anything going forward.
 
paddysr said:
We are at the stage now where it is completely evident that what we have needs improving on.

I'm not sure Earl is the answer as he has come out himself and said he sees himself as a LCB (sorry to those I've bersted over the last 3 years that have been saying it all along!)

If we can't get Fisher fit, and tied down to a new contract we arguably need to strengthen both sides.

Until we are able to do so I'm not sure what the answer is.

Rafferty, while some seem to rate him, is very limited technically and has been massively at fault for a number of our goals this season and Hughes while solid in the air doesn't offer anything going forward.
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not so very long ago you were waxing lyrical about Browne and what a game he had (he was dogwank last night) so perhaps he is your answer on the right, Earl is a very good player and has had to suffer watching the utterly hapless Hughes play (as we all have), I really don't think footy is your game Paddy.
 
billymac said:
not so very long ago you were waxing lyrical about Browne and what a game he had (he was dogwank last night) so perhaps he is your answer on the right, Earl is a very good player and has had to suffer watching the utterly hapless Hughes play (as we all have), I really don't think footy is your game Paddy.
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All 11 players were dogwank last night Billy and Browne isnt a RB despite being more effective there than Rafferty.

I haven't suggested Earl isn't a good player over the years I have been very supportive of him but surely you would rather we play the right players in the right positions Billy.
 
Our centre backs are playing nowhere near the level they were last season. It looks like a combination of form, communication and organisation. We look very weak at full back at the moment. Hughes doesn't look great and Rafferty might as well be winding his way down on Baker Street.
 
Go and watch some recent highlights to see what Rafferty and Hughes bring when allowed to attack. Even if not with assists, the overall play of the two has made a difference.

Last night we were too scared to attack and it showed. Let's not go after players that were either ill or playing with ill teammates, it's down to the manager.
 
i want to add some nuance, our fullbacks i think play near to the best of their ability

its an area we do not exploit as a team, which holds us back as an attacking force

when you see the fullbacks/wingbacks we've just seen against us in the last two games it stark contrast is there for all to see
 
paddysr said:
All 11 players were dogwank last night Billy and Browne isnt a RB despite being more effective there than Rafferty.

I haven't suggested Earl isn't a good player over the years I have been very supportive of him but surely you would rather we play the right players in the right positions Billy.
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Earl is a much better LB than Hughes but unfortunately for him not one of Neil's favs, Barky has played right wingback many times before (I know with Morecambe) so would understand the requirements, Fisher is very important to our team but I fear he has some issue with Neil or perhaps the other way round.
Whoever plays fullback these days has to cover for the ever slower Bauer though, he might just be the main issue in defense but again one of Neils signings
 
Yeah the full backs are one of a quite a few problems, the managers inability to do anything different at home being the main one, he needs to take some responsibility for it himself, never mind blaming the opposition bench, his own players declaring themselves fit and complaining about the penalty decision last night? He said we were dead at 1-0 ffs do what did it matter wether they got a soft pen or not!?

Rafferty and Hughes are very limited especially vs your Cardiff/Millwalls etc....so do something different, they look like in these games that they know they aren’t good enough! What about some motivation, what about using that well paid brain of his to change the strategy etc?

Sick of how bad it is at home.
 
California_PNE said:
i want to add some nuance, our fullbacks i think play near to the best of their ability

its an area we do not exploit as a team, which holds us back as an attacking force

when you see the fullbacks/wingbacks we've just seen against us in the last two games it stark contrast is there for all to see
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If that's the case then we're in real trouble. I don't think Rafferty would play for a mid table League 1 side. Awful footballer
 
LancasterRed said:
Go and watch some recent highlights to see what Rafferty and Hughes bring when allowed to attack. Even if not with assists, the overall play of the two has made a difference.

Last night we were too scared to attack and it showed. Let's not go after players that were either ill or playing with ill teammates, it's down to the manager.
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when our press and midfield dominate rafferty does contribute in attacks, but hes part of an attack, not creating attacks or giving us a consistent threat out wide because hes not that sort of player, i think thats the difference
 
The full backs have been inadequate for a long time now - summer 2019 we needed upgrades.

Instead, we've just awarded Hughes a contract extension.
 
Hughes and Rafferty have both played very well, along with the rest of the squad, in the away games this season.

The issue is how we set up tactically at home and not individual players. Neil can be blamed for the tactics but ultimately he wanted to add 3 or 4 quality additions - I imagine the players he had in mind were upgrades on the likes of Gally/Harrop/Maguire which would have helped us break teams down at home
 
California_PNE said:
when our press and midfield dominate rafferty does contribute in attacks, but hes part of an attack, not creating attacks or giving us a consistent threat out wide because hes not that sort of player, i think thats the difference
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Brentford #1, Huddersfield #2 and the denied QPR penalty are good counterexamples, great balls in creating panic or finding the flick down.

Going after Rafferty for being limited when he's played a key role in recent goals is counterinuitive
 
California_PNE said:
we disagree, awful footballer is just nonsense but fair enough
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Maybe be I'm being slightly too harsh but I quite honestly don't see what he offers. So many times this season he has been caught out for opposition goals and attacking wise he just boots the ball forward. There was a moment in the game yesterday where he received a ball back from a throw in and just lashed it out. Awful.
 
Rafferty & Hughes contribute nothing in home games, I doubt they would start games for another team in the league bar Wycombe.

I doubt they're told to boot things out of play and shit themselves when they cross the halfway line, the amount of backward passes from Rafferty was sickening.
 
LancasterRed said:
Brentford #1, Huddersfield #2 and the denied QPR penalty are good counterexamples, great balls in creating panic or finding the flick down.

Going after Rafferty for being limited when he's played a key role in recent goals is counterinuitive
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i'm not at all, im saying we cant complain that hes not pipa when hes not at good as pipa; the fullbacks we have have contribute a lot, but when our press or midfield are not bossing the game what do they offer then? im far from having a pop at rafferty
 
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