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Its been interesting watching you defend the legacy of lowe who was an absolute disgrace and has gone on to cement that with his embarrassing Wigan tenure also. A fella who has the entire off field structure geared towards him and his mates and exceptional quality loans.

Its all moot anyway when you're still picking storey Hughes and hoping Potts and brady get back asap.

So as I asked before where specifically is the manager going wrong for you?
I’m not defending him just calling out hypocrisy and double standards from fans like yourself. The reason Hecky is getting some support is because he isn’t Scouse and doesn’t wear white trainers. It’s a simple as that because it can’t be the style of football.

He might have been a disgrace but we still performed in local derbys - something that we have still to do under Hecky. That’s one thing he is getting wrong.
The second is the win ratio of 27%.
The third is he almost got us relegated last season.
We have also been out fought by Blackburn and Oxford.

We finished 11th, 10th and 13th under lowey but I was all luck.
Well we be lucky to finish above 17th under Hecky.
 
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I am not disputing that Lowe would have most likely have taken us down in his 3rd full season, just to be clear on this.

Both managers are average at best.
Both spout nonsensical word salad in almost every post match interview.
Both employ a tedious style of football.
Both lost and currently are losing the fanbase.
Both are Two Peas from the same 352 Pod.

I expect a polite parting of the ways come the seasons end.

But even then, if you compare CV’s it’s:

League One Promotion
Championship Promotion
EFL trophy

Vs

Two league two promotions.

He’s a far better manager, although rapidly looking short of ideas at the minute, especially after the window we had in Jan
 
I’m not defending him just calling out hypocrisy and double standards from fans like yourself. The reason Hecky is getting some support is because he isn’t Scouse and doesn’t wear white trainers. It’s a simple as that because it can’t be the style of football.

He might have been a disgrace but we still performed in local derbys - something that we have still to do under Hecky. That’s one thing he is getting wrong.
The second is the win ratio of 27%.
The third is he almost got us relegated last season.
We have also been out fought by Blackburn and Oxford.

We finished 11th, 10th and 13th under lowey but I was all luck.
Well we be lucky to finish above 17th under Hecky.
Not asking you to be an expert in my posts but I'm hardly defending heckingbottom, I couldn't give a shit tbh. But lowe was a complete charlatan and that's not because he was a Scouser it's cause he's a bellend and a shit football manager.

Lowe had far superior loans than heckingbottom has had - in my opinion. Squads basically the same as we just move loans in to make a decent side. Prior to iversen injury and Armstrong going this team was performing ok and league position was excellent. Osmjic shite to deal with, the pitch is an embarrassment, and his squad is limited.

I personally can't see what more he can do, end of season form is endemic under multiple managers (mostly same players), he's no Alex Neil so for me other than starting small more (who gets loads of stick) I dunno how id play it. The whole thing needs ripping up, boring point scoring over lowe - What's the fucking point cha?

We could rake up all sorts of shit, amount wanted Neil out and hounded him for example, it's pointless.
 
But even then, if you compare CV’s it’s:

League One Promotion
Championship Promotion
EFL trophy

Vs

Two league two promotions.

He’s a far better manager, although rapidly looking short of ideas at the minute, especially after the window we had in Jan
Far better manager, who has performed far worse here is the crux of it.

He’s been almost a complete disaster for us, I couldn’t give a shite about his record elsewhere.
 
Far better manager, who has performed far worse here is the crux of it.

He’s been almost a complete disaster for us, I couldn’t give a shite about his record elsewhere.

Would we say “far worse”?

Is this season any different to either of Lowe’s seasons? Similarly decent start, then to tail off in the back half.

Last season, inherited a side that sat bottom of the form table, was given Josh Bowler and Jeppe Okkels as reinforcement, and we stayed up. I’m not saying that’s some kind of great achievement, but people are acting as though relegation was some kind of impossibility.
 
Would we say “far worse”?

Is this season any different to either of Lowe’s seasons? Similarly decent start, then to tail off in the back half.

Last season, inherited a side that sat bottom of the form table, was given Josh Bowler and Jeppe Okkels as reinforcement, and we stayed up. I’m not saying that’s some kind of great achievement, but people are acting as though relegation was some kind of impossibility.
Getting seriously boring and repetitive comparing the two.. are folk not able to discuss the current manager without dragging Lowey into every other post?

His time here has been mainly a disaster.. boring football, terrible league position ‘finish’ and doesn’t seem able to stop these alarming slumps.

Can anyone seriously name a couple of things he’s made a positive impact on during his time here?
 
Weird quote from him last night when asked about Langs potential injury.

Speaking post-match, manager Paul Heckingbottom said: “I've not seen. So, I don’t know if it’s a stamp or a twist. Hopefully, the former. I've not spoken to him, I've not seen him and I've not seen Jacko either.”

So at half time or full time in the changing room he heard nothing from the player nor the physio.

How can he not know what they think it might be?

Has he not gone in at full time again I wonder🤔
 
Weird quote from him last night when asked about Langs potential injury.

Speaking post-match, manager Paul Heckingbottom said: “I've not seen. So, I don’t know if it’s a stamp or a twist. Hopefully, the former. I've not spoken to him, I've not seen him and I've not seen Jacko either.”

So at half time or full time in the changing room he heard nothing from the player nor the physio.

How can he not know what they think it might be?

Has he not gone in at full time again I wonder🤔
Or just being a bit cagey.
 
Weird quote from him last night when asked about Langs potential injury.

Speaking post-match, manager Paul Heckingbottom said: “I've not seen. So, I don’t know if it’s a stamp or a twist. Hopefully, the former. I've not spoken to him, I've not seen him and I've not seen Jacko either.”

So at half time or full time in the changing room he heard nothing from the player nor the physio.

How can he not know what they think it might be?

Has he not gone in at full time again I wonder🤔
Piss poor from PH and shows again very poor and little interest, he is one of the most recent signings and our record signing.
No wonder we play with so little commitment, intent or passion when our manager has little to no interest in an injury to one of his most recent signings.🙁😡
 
Piss poor from PH and shows again very poor and little interest, he is one of the most recent signings and our record signing.
No wonder we play with so little commitment, intent or passion when our manager has little to no interest in an injury to one of his most recent signings.🙁😡
Or be may know more than he’s letting on.
 
Piss poor from PH and shows again very poor and little interest, he is one of the most recent signings and our record signing.
No wonder we play with so little commitment, intent or passion when our manager has little to no interest in an injury to one of his most recent signings.🙁😡
He doesn't strike me as someone who can instill passion into his players. The football is shocking, has been for so long now but he doesn't seem to have done a thing about it. No matter who he puts out and what shape are play the outcome remains the same. It's obviously been mounting for a while so to not put the commitment in yesterday is bang out of order. I felt nothing when all 4 goals went in, just a repeat of the Millwall game and I'm glad I stayed home. I won't be attending another game this season and I'm not renewing my season ticket.
 
It does seem striking how the effort levels have dropped off.

We did Ipswich, Leicester & Southampton and drew at Borough, only losing 4 before Christmas. The desire to fight and battle was brilliant. Like PH mentioned, we were awful to play against, especially at Deepdale. That's what I felt PH and his staff gave us.

But since Wigan in the FA Cup the desire, concentration, togetherness has been awful. Rovers and Swansea has killed off any fight they had left it seems.
 
He doesn't strike me as someone who can instill passion into his players. The football is shocking, has been for so long now but he doesn't seem to have done a thing about it. No matter who he puts out and what shape are play the outcome remains the same. It's obviously been mounting for a while so to not put the commitment in yesterday is bang out of order. I felt nothing when all 4 goals went in, just a repeat of the Millwall game and I'm glad I stayed home. I won't be attending another game this season and I'm not renewing my season ticket.
I did not go to the game yesterday despite having a season ticket for 30 plus years, just watched from home.
The Millwall game with the lack of passion,fight and attacking intent was enough,so decided not to bother.
The Oxford game has done even less to entice me back to my seat.
I've watched North End since 1973 and it's difficult to imagine a time I've felt so little interest due to the performances on the pitch and the negativity off the pitch.🙁😡
 
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