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Heckingbottom
I wrote in my diary today and it simply said “bugger”.
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Absolute filth
Can Barnsley afford to buy out their contracts?
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Its a good job he's only on a 12 month rolling contract.
Can't be that much to sack him.
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Yep, the IoM will want someone else to pay for their cock-ups over the past 15yrs.
Compo for Hecky & Co will be the least of the new owners’ worries on that score.
If they hadn’t messed things up so badly, they might be walking away with a lot more £££, but that’s what employing Peter Ridsdale to run your club does for you.
If only they’d asked Leeds first.
Or Plymouth.
Or Cardiff. 😏
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Probably still the fat end of half a million quid I bet.
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These 12 month rolling contracts as beloved by Ridsdale are a millstone round our necks. Never liked them .
Would PH staying persuaded Dobbin and Devine to stay if we had the money. Then review PH after a month into new season. With extra signings of course.
Our defensive line up is patched up from 3 seasons ago - needs are proper overhaul.
I also suspect PH obsession with Jebbo is unwarranted. He should not be the first choice selection .
And Peter Murphy adds little as far as I can see
Would PH staying persuaded Dobbin and Devine to stay if we had the money. Then review PH after a month into new season. With extra signings of course.
Our defensive line up is patched up from 3 seasons ago - needs are proper overhaul.
I also suspect PH obsession with Jebbo is unwarranted. He should not be the first choice selection .
And Peter Murphy adds little as far as I can see
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Why are they a millstone? The alternative is a longer term fixed contract, which could well be more expensive to terminate.
In reality, both forms of contract probably have pre-agreed severance terms. It’s quite possible the fixed term contract would have chunkier compensation if you want to get rid with more than a year remaining.
There are no guarantees either way and it all depends what severance terms the two parties agreed upon, but it’s not really correct to say the 1-year rolling contract is a millstone.
Or anyone with half a fucking brain
Absolute shame on the lot of us for letting them, and him, get away with this for so long.
This.
No Manager with a half decent pedigree, which is surely someone we would want to go for, is going to come for a 12 Month fixed contract.
The alternative would almost certainly be a 3 year deal (& possibly plus1) which if things don't work out could cost way more than a 12 Month rolling one!
I've no issue with a 12 month rolling contract. Cheaper to sack someone with 12 months left than 18, 24, 30 etc.
And it means we always get compensation.
£500K
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Were it not for Dan Iversen we’d be going down this season.
It's a license to print money for ex professional footballers, the only problem with it is that you have to put up with soon looking twice your actual age.
I think he’s on a bit more than that and then you’ve got the support staff as well. Reckon the total cost could be closer to £1 m which is why it won’t happen under the current regime with a roughly mid table position.
I've said this before and I still believe that PH is a proper football man and a capable manager, however he appears to be completely out of ideas with this group, he doesn't appear to have complete faith in his squad and as a result he's gone cautious with selections and tactics and has got himself somewhat stuck in a rut.
Some managers are skilled at getting the best out of an unfancied group of players, others operate better at 'bigger' clubs with squads more set up for success - PH seems to me to be the latter, which is why if we were taken over and there was a radical overhaul of the squad, I'd be prepared to let him continue in post and see what he can do with a more talented group, but in truth (even though I think the takeover will go through), I'm not expecting that massive refresh of the squad straight away and it's for this reason I think it's best that the club and manager part ways at the end of the season.
He's done his best, North End is a tough gig for any manager.
Some managers are skilled at getting the best out of an unfancied group of players, others operate better at 'bigger' clubs with squads more set up for success - PH seems to me to be the latter, which is why if we were taken over and there was a radical overhaul of the squad, I'd be prepared to let him continue in post and see what he can do with a more talented group, but in truth (even though I think the takeover will go through), I'm not expecting that massive refresh of the squad straight away and it's for this reason I think it's best that the club and manager part ways at the end of the season.
He's done his best, North End is a tough gig for any manager.
It is certainly true to say that a number of managers ( including Alex Neil eventually) have felt they have had to go safety first with the squads they had.
There’s laws against that…
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The NTT20 lads did say this on his appointment actually.
I just think tactically he's easy to work out.
I do struggle to understand why managers play boring/back 5 crap and don't play youngsters when there's nothing to play for. It means you get fired quicker.
Both factors have such sway when the going gets tough. I remember asking Peterborough fans why they liked the clueless Darren Ferguson on the train once and their answer was actually really good: all the managers at that level are boring back 5 merchants who rely on 30 odd year olds. Ferguson is gung ho and gives kids a chance.
Obviously it doesn't help if you are getting battered every week but it would create more patience if the football was good and we were blooding academy players.