How do we solve a Mads problem?
Everytime he got the ball yesterday he stopped, any forward momentum ended and wigan got back into shape. With dobbin and jebbo through the middle and small and pol wide last night he should have been playing them through quickly not stopping and passing to the defence (or just out).
After his one attempted flick that went to a wigan player mccann screamed at him (in frustration?)
After his one attempted flick that went to a wigan player mccann screamed at him (in frustration?)
When he is given a chance from the start he doesn’t seem to do enough or put the effort in like others do.
When he gets substituted he gives a tantrum while going off.
It’s obvious he is not happy here anymore so the best outcome is to sell him if there are any suitors.
When he gets substituted he gives a tantrum while going off.
It’s obvious he is not happy here anymore so the best outcome is to sell him if there are any suitors.
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May be able to move him on to a team outside of UK. If he doesn’t go now it will be end of season. I can’t see any scenario were we give him a new contract.When he is given a chance from the start he doesn’t seem to do enough or put the effort in like others do.
When he gets substituted he gives a tantrum while going off.
It’s obvious he is not happy here anymore so the best outcome is to sell him if there are any suitors.
I am sure PR will be putting his name out soon and I can see him signing for a club outside the UK.May be able to move him on to a team outside of UK. If he doesn’t go now it will be end of season. I can’t see any scenario were we give him a new contract.
I really want him to do well and improve but sadly I'm just not seeing it. May have done well against Bristol City but he needs to have that kind of performance on a consistent basis and more than just a cameo.
He had a chance to stake a claim last night and sadly he failed miserably.
He had a chance to stake a claim last night and sadly he failed miserably.
There is no doubt he has some skill and creativity when he’s given time and space.
His appearances as a sub after 70 minutes have been ok.
But as soon as there is a battle and physicality he can’t cope and then gets extremely frustrated with himself , tries speculative passing and regularly loses possession.
Starting him against Wigan was such a strange decision, that was never his sort of game, same at Wrexham.
It’s not doing him or the club any good.
His appearances as a sub after 70 minutes have been ok.
But as soon as there is a battle and physicality he can’t cope and then gets extremely frustrated with himself , tries speculative passing and regularly loses possession.
Starting him against Wigan was such a strange decision, that was never his sort of game, same at Wrexham.
It’s not doing him or the club any good.
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In fairness they all looked like they were playing on Moor Park last nightMads came on against Bristol and for 10 minutes he looked unplayable.
From the start last night, apart from one pass he looked like someone who should be playing on Moor Park.
So do we keep him just for cameos off the bench?
Tbh the pitches on Moor Park are in a better condition.In fairness they all looked like they were playing on Moor Park last night
The first yard in a ‘good’ player is in their head. They know their first touch/pass before they have possession. Devine/Dobbin have a bit of this but mads too often needs a touch before he figures out what he wants to do. This slows is down so often.
Main issue for me is he thinks he is better than he is and the best solution would be to sell, in my opinion however, we need a buyer
Main issue for me is he thinks he is better than he is and the best solution would be to sell, in my opinion however, we need a buyer
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You can say exactly the same thing about , Storey, Lindsay , and Hughes take a touch look up sidefoot it sideways, or back to Iverson then do exactly the same thing again before Hughes hoofs it down the line far too slow allowing all the forwards to be marked with little space and out numbered .The first yard in a ‘good’ player is in their head. They know their first touch/pass before they have possession. Devine/Dobbin have a bit of this but mads too often needs a touch before he figures out what he wants to do. This slows is down so often.
Main issue for me is he thinks he is better than he is and the best solution would be to sell, in my opinion however, we need a buyer
I just think Mads is a different type of ‘bang average’ player’ to those we’ve typically stockpiled over the years, but still bang average at this level. I personally don’t see any issue with his work rate or have a problem with his relaxed demeanour, I just think he has insufficient quality, consistency and technique. His first touch isn’t generally good; his passing isn’t generally good and his shooting isn’t generally good. Because he’s a creative ‘flair’ player (at least on paper!) it’s been easy over the months to cut him some slack. The players around him weren’t good enough, he sees things others don’t, we need to get him on the ball more, etc etc. In truth he rarely gets more than a 6 out of 10 when he starts a game. A useful option from the bench occasionally for sure. Is that enough? Not for me if we can turn a profit on him.
You can say exactly the same thing about , Storey, Lindsay , and Hughes take a touch look up sidefoot it sideways, or back to Iverson then do exactly the same thing again before Hughes hoofs it down the line far too slow allowing all the forwards to be marked with little space and out numbered .
With respect Lenny, the post was regarding Mads, a ‘creative midfielder’. You are quoting central defenders. The comparison is chalk and cheese.
I dont argue they are slow on the ball but not one you mention is a ‘ball’ playing CB yet they are asked to be such.
Apart from that he’s a crackerI just think Mads is a different type of ‘bang average’ player’ to those we’ve typically stockpiled over the years, but still bang average at this level. I personally don’t see any issue with his work rate or have a problem with his relaxed demeanour, I just think he has insufficient quality, consistency and technique. His first touch isn’t generally good; his passing isn’t generally good and his shooting isn’t generally good. Because he’s a creative ‘flair’ player (at least on paper!) it’s been easy over the months to cut him some slack. The players around him weren’t good enough, he sees things others don’t, we need to get him on the ball more, etc etc. In truth he rarely gets more than a 6 out of 10 when he starts a game. A useful option from the bench occasionally for sure. Is that enough? Not for me if we can turn a profit on him.
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He’s just not very good. If he was a tenth as good as he seems to think he is he’d be some player, he’s not though
Yeah think it was as much hope and how little creatively we had in our team before the summer recruitment.
The theory that the other players just aren't on his wavelength for the passes beyond them - if he was that good, he would be able to adjust for the players around him.
He's been given time and opportunity and this season whenever given a start (and often in the Dobbin 'free' role) hes underwhelmed. Often coming on with only Smith in front of him isn't ideal - but last night he had two tackling midfielders by his side, pace to his flanks and pace in front of him and was a passenger at best
Problem is next summer.
Mads - Sold (maybe)
Dobbin - Gone
Devine - Gone unless we find £4.5m
Those are our 3 main creative midfielders most likely all gone in 6 months time.
Gonna cost a pretty penny in Transfer Fees and/or Wages to replace these 3.
Mads - Sold (maybe)
Dobbin - Gone
Devine - Gone unless we find £4.5m
Those are our 3 main creative midfielders most likely all gone in 6 months time.
Gonna cost a pretty penny in Transfer Fees and/or Wages to replace these 3.
That’s why it’s crucial we gain Promotion this season. If not, I am sure Hecky would have scouted out more young prem loanies for next season if he is here that is.Problem is next summer.
Mads - Sold (maybe)
Dobbin - Gone
Devine - Gone unless we find £4.5m
Those are our 3 main creative midfielders most likely all gone in 6 months time.
Gonna cost a pretty penny in Transfer Fees and/or Wages to replace these 3.