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Wasn't Gary Coleman about 85 or something?
VernonsBoots said:
Wasn't Gary Coleman about 85 or something?
How long.....
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84 red, the oldest kid in town.Ol' Red Eyes said:
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What a load of tosh, "inclusion" my ass ! Football isn't their culture. Tell us VB when did India or Pakistan last qualify for the world cup ? Are you telling us that 15,000 Indians in Preston should buck the trend of almost a billion in India ?
Your talk of "inclusion" makes me want to throw up. Why not have positive discrimination in the team. Hang on a minute that would have meant that last season we were over represented with ethnics and that would have been racist wouldn't it ?
What a load of tosh, "inclusion" my ass ! Football isn't their culture. Tell us VB when did India or Pakistan last qualify for the world cup ? Are you telling us that 15,000 Indians in Preston should buck the trend of almost a billion in India ?
Your talk of "inclusion" makes me want to throw up. Why not have positive discrimination in the team. Hang on a minute that would have meant that last season we were over represented with ethnics and that would have been racist wouldn't it ?
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Micheal Chopra........Newcastle,Barnsley,Cardiff
Harpal Singh............Leeds,Stockport.
Thats 2 that have made it in the last 5 years.
surf said:
Micheal Chopra........Newcastle,Barnsley,Cardiff
Harpal Singh............Leeds,Stockport.
Thats 2 that have made it in the last 5 years.
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Might have known a thread like this would tempt you out of your mousehole. Are there actually 15,000 Indians in Preston? Doubt it. But then you probably lump all 'Asians' together as 'Indians'.
Nobody's talking about positive discrimination, just that Asians, if they have the ability and the desire, should get the same chance to make it as white/black players. With racists like you around, they wouldn't have that chance..........cue usual patter about dating a black Kenyan....but maybe it's just Asians, or more specifically, Muslims you have a problem with?
Voldemort said:
Might have known a thread like this would tempt you out of your mousehole. Are there actually 15,000 Indians in Preston? Doubt it. But then you probably lump all 'Asians' together as 'Indians'.
Nobody's talking about positive discrimination, just that Asians, if they have the ability and the desire, should get the same chance to make it as white/black players. With racists like you around, they wouldn't have that chance..........cue usual patter about dating a black Kenyan....but maybe it's just Asians, or more specifically, Muslims you have a problem with?
shaky
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If they were good enough, they would be playing. There are many, many Asians in the game, too many to count. You`re getting "Asian" mixed up with "Muslim" and trying to create another "race" debate which has been done to death and you`re waiting for someone to have an opinion which you can shout "racist" at in the belief that everyone will see what a bloody good sort you are.
No thanks.
On the subject of Diff`rent strokes remember the sister Dana Plato? Got hooked up in pornography then topped herself, tragic. Damn good pics though!
If they were good enough, they would be playing. There are many, many Asians in the game, too many to count. You`re getting "Asian" mixed up with "Muslim" and trying to create another "race" debate which has been done to death and you`re waiting for someone to have an opinion which you can shout "racist" at in the belief that everyone will see what a bloody good sort you are.
No thanks.
On the subject of Diff`rent strokes remember the sister Dana Plato? Got hooked up in pornography then topped herself, tragic. Damn good pics though!
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Your comments about Dana Plato are truly distasteful, you really are a sad little man.
Y.F.R.T.
I am not getting Asian mixed up with Muslim, it's you looking for a row not me.shaky said:
Your comments about Dana Plato are truly distasteful, you really are a sad little man.
Y.F.R.T.
shaky
The Gentry (RIP)
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Yes you are, because there are lots of Asians playing, but hardly any muslims. I am not looking for a row, just pointing out the obvious. Very distasteful about Dana, but she was tasty, rrruuuffff!!!
Not sad, very happy, not little, over six foot. That`s why you never say anything to me in person.
Go on, call me another name if you can`t think of anything to say, being as you said you`d never stoop so low. 😀
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Yes you are, because there are lots of Asians playing, but hardly any muslims. I am not looking for a row, just pointing out the obvious. Very distasteful about Dana, but she was tasty, rrruuuffff!!!
Not sad, very happy, not little, over six foot. That`s why you never say anything to me in person.
Go on, call me another name if you can`t think of anything to say, being as you said you`d never stoop so low. 😀
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Didn't PNE have the first Black player to appear in the football league in the early days. I think the guy was our goalkeeper.
Its so difficult nowadays to be sure about using the correct terminilogy - I sincerely hope that my words are politically correct and if not I do not intend to offend any person.
But locally you would expect that football players would develop from the whole population whatever their ethnicity.
Didn't PNE have the first Black player to appear in the football league in the early days. I think the guy was our goalkeeper.
Its so difficult nowadays to be sure about using the correct terminilogy - I sincerely hope that my words are politically correct and if not I do not intend to offend any person.
But locally you would expect that football players would develop from the whole population whatever their ethnicity.
shaky
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Point taken about the signatures Oof, now get them back up, as much as I may snipe about other matters, your sigs are probably the most amusing thing on the MB.
Point taken about the signatures Oof, now get them back up, as much as I may snipe about other matters, your sigs are probably the most amusing thing on the MB.
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Its nothing to do with there physical stature.
Its a cultural thing.
95% of indian parents would not be happy with their son going into football.
The wext generation of parents were born here so im sure in 20 years or so there will be loads of asian pros.
Its nothing to do with there physical stature.
Its a cultural thing.
95% of indian parents would not be happy with their son going into football.
The wext generation of parents were born here so im sure in 20 years or so there will be loads of asian pros.
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Nobody has said we should be making allowances have they?
Just go down to any 5-a-side footy place on any night of the week and you will see plenty of asians (no idea if they're muslim, hindu etc) playing in teams. You can't therefore say they have no interest in the game just because it's not in their country-of-origin's culture.
Plus, I can think of at least two lads in the 'top 7' of people I've played with over the years being asian. These guys were both skillful and played with strength.
I take Surf's point that as a stereotype, asians are less physically strong but that can't be the case for all asians. There must be kids out there who have the whole package.
But, at the same time, I don't think the lack of professional asian muslims, hindus etc is down to some inherent racism in the game. If that was the case we wouldn't have any black people in football either.
I think the answer is partly down to something Voldemort alludes to in that the older generation of muslims, hindus etc were more embedded in their old country's ethos, where football was not part of that culture, and that this is slowly being eroded away in new generations who are becoming more westernised.
Right now, religion plays (I reckon) a large part in muslims' lives to the point that it takes precedence over their willingness to take part in professional football. (Ramadan vs dietary regime, prayer sessions v training & matches etc)
As Muslim communities become more westernised, this unwilingness to place football as a career over their religion will, for many, become less and less. In much the same way that 100 years ago, Christians would never have considered playing footy on a Sunday, whereas now they have found ways to justify it (what's the name of the guy who plays/played for Hull and is a devout christian?).
The very first thread asked - will we see more Asian footy players. I believe the answer is yes but only once they have found a way to reconcile the demands of football within their various religions and I believe that will take a good 25+ years yet.
Voldemort said:
Nobody has said we should be making allowances have they?
Just go down to any 5-a-side footy place on any night of the week and you will see plenty of asians (no idea if they're muslim, hindu etc) playing in teams. You can't therefore say they have no interest in the game just because it's not in their country-of-origin's culture.
Plus, I can think of at least two lads in the 'top 7' of people I've played with over the years being asian. These guys were both skillful and played with strength.
I take Surf's point that as a stereotype, asians are less physically strong but that can't be the case for all asians. There must be kids out there who have the whole package.
But, at the same time, I don't think the lack of professional asian muslims, hindus etc is down to some inherent racism in the game. If that was the case we wouldn't have any black people in football either.
I think the answer is partly down to something Voldemort alludes to in that the older generation of muslims, hindus etc were more embedded in their old country's ethos, where football was not part of that culture, and that this is slowly being eroded away in new generations who are becoming more westernised.
Right now, religion plays (I reckon) a large part in muslims' lives to the point that it takes precedence over their willingness to take part in professional football. (Ramadan vs dietary regime, prayer sessions v training & matches etc)
As Muslim communities become more westernised, this unwilingness to place football as a career over their religion will, for many, become less and less. In much the same way that 100 years ago, Christians would never have considered playing footy on a Sunday, whereas now they have found ways to justify it (what's the name of the guy who plays/played for Hull and is a devout christian?).
The very first thread asked - will we see more Asian footy players. I believe the answer is yes but only once they have found a way to reconcile the demands of football within their various religions and I believe that will take a good 25+ years yet.
shaky
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Bloody rats cocks, 20 years? I`ll probably be too old to enjoy them then!bioshabba said:
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Good god man, read my original post, I am not confused. I don't know you in person and that's why I don't talk to you in person.
Apart from PNE I would not be moving in the same social circles as you and your type.
shaky said:
Good god man, read my original post, I am not confused. I don't know you in person and that's why I don't talk to you in person.
Apart from PNE I would not be moving in the same social circles as you and your type.
shaky
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Of course you wouldn`t, I don`t go down to the social to sign on! You do know me Vern, you know lots of the people I do, cut the crap for once.VernonsBoots said:
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You couldn't possibly know anyone that I know! I don't work because I don't have to.shaky said:
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I think the asians as VB says stick to their own and this maybe the reason there's not many pro asians in the league.
I don't think racism has anything to do with it, the asians, muslims, hindus or whatever do things in their own groups, if they interacted more at a junior level then I'm sure in years to come there'd be some good pros coming through from them races....
Can't see it happening tho! They're better at Cricket!! Not meaning to sound racist by that, by the way!! Lol!!
I think the asians as VB says stick to their own and this maybe the reason there's not many pro asians in the league.
I don't think racism has anything to do with it, the asians, muslims, hindus or whatever do things in their own groups, if they interacted more at a junior level then I'm sure in years to come there'd be some good pros coming through from them races....
Can't see it happening tho! They're better at Cricket!! Not meaning to sound racist by that, by the way!! Lol!!
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When i was at Corpus Christi High School there were a group of muslims, hindu's and sikhs playing football amongs themselves at break time. The white's didn't get them involved and during PE they got abused in the changing rooms!
I think there is a number of reasons why there haven't been a flow of asians and the root ploblem as i have mentioned above is the core of where it all starts. They need to intehgrate and feel welcome from a younger age.
As for the asian community just being interested in cricket is untrue. The new generation breed follow football more than any other sport. They need to be encouraged and if the right amount of support is provided, we will see more coming thru the ranks.
Look at the positives, if it wasnt for them we would still be eating fish n chips at night!
When i was at Corpus Christi High School there were a group of muslims, hindu's and sikhs playing football amongs themselves at break time. The white's didn't get them involved and during PE they got abused in the changing rooms!
I think there is a number of reasons why there haven't been a flow of asians and the root ploblem as i have mentioned above is the core of where it all starts. They need to intehgrate and feel welcome from a younger age.
As for the asian community just being interested in cricket is untrue. The new generation breed follow football more than any other sport. They need to be encouraged and if the right amount of support is provided, we will see more coming thru the ranks.
Look at the positives, if it wasnt for them we would still be eating fish n chips at night!