Re: How long.....
Voldemort said:
What a load of tosh, "inclusion" my ass ! Football isn't their culture. Tell us VB when did India or Pakistan last qualify for the world cup ? Are you telling us that 15,000 Indians in Preston should buck the trend of almost a billion in India ?
Your talk of "inclusion" makes me want to throw up. Why not have positive discrimination in the team. Hang on a minute that would have meant that last season we were over represented with ethnics and that would have been racist wouldn't it ?
Nobody has said we should be making allowances have they?
Just go down to any 5-a-side footy place on any night of the week and you will see plenty of asians (no idea if they're muslim, hindu etc) playing in teams. You can't therefore say they have no interest in the game just because it's not in their country-of-origin's culture.
Plus, I can think of at least two lads in the 'top 7' of people I've played with over the years being asian. These guys were both skillful and played with strength.
I take Surf's point that as a stereotype, asians are less physically strong but that can't be the case for all asians. There must be kids out there who have the whole package.
But, at the same time, I don't think the lack of professional asian muslims, hindus etc is down to some inherent racism in the game. If that was the case we wouldn't have any black people in football either.
I think the answer is partly down to something Voldemort alludes to in that the older generation of muslims, hindus etc were more embedded in their old country's ethos, where football was not part of that culture, and that this is slowly being eroded away in new generations who are becoming more westernised.
Right now, religion plays (I reckon) a large part in muslims' lives to the point that it takes precedence over their willingness to take part in professional football. (Ramadan vs dietary regime, prayer sessions v training & matches etc)
As Muslim communities become more westernised, this unwilingness to place football as a career over their religion will, for many, become less and less. In much the same way that 100 years ago, Christians would never have considered playing footy on a Sunday, whereas now they have found ways to justify it (what's the name of the guy who plays/played for Hull and is a devout christian?).
The very first thread asked - will we see more Asian footy players. I believe the answer is yes but only once they have found a way to reconcile the demands of football within their various religions and I believe that will take a good 25+ years yet.