How many points

[llanroc]

I don’t know how many points will be required to make the playoffs but I’m confident that we will get there, and my reasons for this confidence is:

1) Did you see the faces on our players when we lost at home to Fulham? They were gutted and I don’t think they’ll want to go threw that feeling again.

2) We are not afraid of any team. The Manager keeps telling them they are better than the opposition.

3) Other teams are frightened of us. That is so clear to me. Several Wolves players were throwing themselves on the floor in order to win free kicks or bookings and trying to cheat the referee whenever they could. I’ve seen Wolves twice since then, and they certainly weren’t trying to win free kicks or bookings in those games. We reduced a good footballing team into trying underhand methods in order to get something from the game.

Fulham worked their bollocks off to get the result against us last week. They certainly didn’t put the same work rate into their game yesterday and were very sloppy and careless at the back. If they’d played like they did yesterday when they played us, we’d have run out comfortable winners imo.

 

[marsbars]

I don’t know how many points will be required to make the playoffs but I’m confident that we will get there, and my reasons for this confidence is:

1) Did you see the faces on our players when we lost at home to Fulham? They were gutted and I don’t think they’ll want to go threw that feeling again.

2) We are not afraid of any team. The Manager keeps telling them they are better than the opposition.

3) Other teams are frightened of us. That is so clear to me. Several Wolves players were throwing themselves on the floor in order to win free kicks or bookings and trying to cheat the referee whenever they could. I’ve seen Wolves twice since then, and they certainly weren’t trying to win free kicks or bookings in those games. We reduced a good footballing team into trying underhand methods in order to get something from the game.

Fulham worked their bollocks off to get the result against us last week. They certainly didn’t put the same work rate into their game yesterday and were very sloppy and careless at the back. If they’d played like they did yesterday when they played us, we’d have run out comfortable winners imo.

I tend to agree with all of this IIanroc but as much as the fear of playing us has returned (post Grayson) it might just be one season ahead of us, we could sneak in, ... but get there or not this season, it's looking bloody great 🙂

ANSWA

 

[Scrumpy White]

All this discussion seems pointless, were going to make the playoffs. Come on you Whites ?

 

[Barack]

There has been a wide variation in points gained by teams finishing 6th in the last 6 years:

16/17 - 80
15/16 - 74
14/15 - 78
13/14 - 72
12/13 - 68
11/12 - 75

There will be a lot of points dropped in the run in. Anyone who puts in a decent run in has a great shout - lets hope its us.

And without labouring the point had the teams above finished with the following not what they achieved they would still have finished in 6th!

16/17 Points - 75 GD 15
15/16 Points - 69 GD 3
14/15 Points - 78 GD 15
13/14 Points - 71 GD 15
12/13 Points - 68 GD 9
11/12 Points - 70 GD 2
10/11 Points - 72 GD 12

 

[White123]

I don’t know how many points will be required to make the playoffs but I’m confident that we will get there, and my reasons for this confidence is:

1) Did you see the faces on our players when we lost at home to Fulham? They were gutted and I don’t think they’ll want to go threw that feeling again.

2) We are not afraid of any team. The Manager keeps telling them they are better than the opposition.

3) Other teams are frightened of us. That is so clear to me. Several Wolves players were throwing themselves on the floor in order to win free kicks or bookings and trying to cheat the referee whenever they could. I’ve seen Wolves twice since then, and they certainly weren’t trying to win free kicks or bookings in those games. We reduced a good footballing team into trying underhand methods in order to get something from the game.

Fulham worked their bollocks off to get the result against us last week. They certainly didn’t put the same work rate into their game yesterday and were very sloppy and careless at the back. If they’d played like they did yesterday when they played us, we’d have run out comfortable winners imo.

Out of all the sides we also have the best run in - in my opinion. Middlesborough have an awful run in as do shef united - although they play all the best sides at home. Bristol city have to go to Middlesborough and shef united. Our toughest game is Shef United away - hopefully we are in the play offs by then but the good news is if we need to win our last match it's Burton at home who will already be relegated (hopefully.)

 

[Tugg Speedman]

And without labouring the point had the teams above finished with the following not what they achieved they would still have finished in 6th!

16/17 Points - 75 GD 15
15/16 Points - 69 GD 3
14/15 Points - 78 GD 15
13/14 Points - 71 GD 15
12/13 Points - 68 GD 9
11/12 Points - 70 GD 2
10/11 Points - 72 GD 12

'If' Fulham had finished last season with 75pts and a 15GD then we would have needed 75pts and GD of 16 or above to beat them and finish 6th place.

But history shows they finished with 80pts, meaning we would have needed at least 80pts and a better GD to finish 6th last season. Fulham would then have finished 7th on 80pts and an inferior GD.

There are lots if other scenarios e.g. if we took 3 or 6pts off the team who finished directly below us in 7th. But we could be here all week analysing it.

You can't magically take points away from teams and say 'If' they had done this or that. You can only look at the historical facts/stats.

Can't really understand the debate.

 

[cheshirewhite]

FWIW we have the same points as we did in 2005/6 in Davies' last season after 38 games, managed to get to 80 points and 4th by May despite no Nugent. Of course we racked off 5 wins in a row from this point but looking at the schedule ahead there's nobody that you would say we couldn't beat to do something similar again now

 

[Kathryn]

FWIW we have the same points as we did in 2005/6 in Davies' last season after 38 games, managed to get to 80 points and 4th by May despite no Nugent. Of course we racked off 5 wins in a row from this point but looking at the schedule ahead there's nobody that you would say we couldn't beat to do something similar again now

Currently we’re only 3 points ahead of this time last season, but we only achieved 5 points in our last 8 games. I can’t see that happening this season.

 

[paddysr]

FWIW we have the same points as we did in 2005/6 in Davies' last season after 38 games, managed to get to 80 points and 4th by May despite no Nugent. Of course we racked off 5 wins in a row from this point but looking at the schedule ahead there's nobody that you would say we couldn't beat to do something similar again now

This is as good a comparison as we could possibly look at. Similar vibe around the supporters too.

 

[norky84]

Out of all the sides we also have the best run in - in my opinion. Middlesborough have an awful run in as do shef united - although they play all the best sides at home. Bristol city have to go to Middlesborough and shef united. Our toughest game is Shef United away - hopefully we are in the play offs by then but the good news is if we need to win our last match it's Burton at home who will already be relegated (hopefully.)

Can't argue that we don't have the best run in on paper. Our problem is we have had a problem for a long time, mostly at home, of not beating sides we should.

If we can get a minimum 4 points from our next 2 games, then we will be in a real strong position.

 

[europne]

People make this really complicated!

Just keep on winning as many games as possible, that’s the simple requirement.

Get down to Deepdale and enjoy it.

 

[amw]

15 points needed to squeeze in I think