January thread
kbd_pne;n3405173 said:
Brereton isn't really a striker. In fact having watched him plenty at Forest it's not really clear what he is. The Arsenal game for them apart, I can't remember him having a good game. The Forest fans were amazed at the money they got for him.
So 2 suggestions so far are Tom Eaves and going back in for Kieffer Moore... they're 2 players i'd love for us to go in for, but surely Gillingham/Barnsley will want over 1-2 million for either player? I highly doubt that sort of money will get sanctioned by Hemmings. Bargain bucket it is again me'thinks!
Many Clouds;n3406755 said:
Pretty sure Eaves is out of contract in the summer, signed a 2 year deal in June 2017.
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/sport/eaves-contract-talks-under-way-192852/
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We're just a month away from January, and we will all be chomping at the bit for new players, I'm not going to speculate on who and why and how much, because I honestly believe that we will not see our owner paying out big money for anyone that we as supporters would like to see here. Over the past couple of seasons North End have spread their money very thinly and mainly brought in players who are not at our level but for little money in the hope that our management can do something with them, and in all honesty for one or two it's worked. I suppose not all buys work out perfect or we wouldn't be on the look out for new ones, barring injuries which we now have in copious amounts. I fully expect players to be talked about in this next month, but don't waste your time thinking we will spend over a couple of million on any one player and that is a pretty high amount, as for those with experience and skills, that usually comes at a price. May sound doom n gloom but expect little and see where we go, we may be surprised. I for one just hope we don't go to the exit door with any of our super stars, that would just put a massive downer for all true supporters. We all rubbed our hands when Jordan went for almost £10m and I believe it was good business, but only in the hope that we were going to replace him with a fresh face who was as good or better, but as I said spending money isn't in North End's strategy.
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Mickypne;n3406751 said:
I've been impressed by Brereton in the past. He scored against us last season at Deepdale, and was tearing us a new one on the wing at Deepdale the season before, before Mark Warbuton bizarrely subbed him off. It seems bizarre that Tony Mowbray would sanction a £7m only to play the likes of Kasey Palmer and Dack (midfielders) up front instead of him. Apparently the general feeling at Forest was that he was better down the middle, given how big and physical he is.
Many Clouds;n3406755 said:
Eaves has just 6 months left on his contract, so adding that to his lack of pedigree above League 1 level, I don't think he'd be very expensive. He looks to be a huge physical presence and a big goal threat in that division, whether he could transfer that goal threat to Championship level and provide the mobility and running we need is another matter. One of the plus points of Moore (although seemingly off the table now) was that despite his height and big frame he runs all day for the team. I haven't seen much of Eaves but I wonder if he's got the pace required. If he does then I'm sure he's one Neil and Ridsdale will be looking at.
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sedgwick__7;n3406764 said:
To be fair, if we sign a big targetman, I couldn't see them being a regular starter, just an option to change games or something different if we're playing a soft defence like Brentford or Bristol City.
Mobility would be good but you pay a big premium for that, I wouldn't be against a disruptive Dichio type coming in, as we already have a pacey option in Nmecha and a poacher in Moult.
Lets face it, we're not going to sign someone who is the complete package and if we do, it'll be someone who needs 12 months to adapt.
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sf;n3406766 said:
I just view mobility at the top end of the pitch as pretty vital to our system really. They don't have to be rapid but have to press for most of the game. Hugill was certainly capable of this.
We all had this debate on here towards the start of the summer when discussing the potential arrival of a target man, wondering how much one would be used and etc. Neil played a target man every week at Norwich in Jerome, and every week here when Hugill was still here. I think he's views a target man as a vital option who would play a lot of games, not just someone to come on for the last 20 minutes.
We do have 'options' but Nmecha is yet to score and looks very raw (and only on loan), and Moult is yet to score when starting a game and has struggled at times to lead the line. Although that aspect of his game has improved a bit since he's arrived, I still think he looks far more effective off the bench when there is more space and another, more physical forward has already 'roughed up' the defenders.
I agree about development and 'the complete package'. Pretty much most of the signings we've made since Grayson left have been for the future or players who'll need integrating. Obviously it could be good for the future but the first team has not really improved as a result, which is probably part of the reason why we currently lie in the bottom half.
Sorry, just find it a bit funny that so many people are calling for us to get experienced Championship strikers (or Prem loan forwards) in Jan but then beat on about our problem this season being not getting league one Moore (or whoever else,) in the last window. But also then complain about other players we brought in from that league (or below) not being good enough. Not aiming this at anyone, just a general vibe from here for a while now.
sedgwick__7;n3406770 said:
Agree with what you're saying but i've just lowered my expectations completely, mobility is key to Neil's system but I just can't see us signing someone who has a good scoring record, is good in the air and has good mobility.
As has been mentioned, Moore looked perfect, now we're working our way down the list.
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Tom Eaves is 26 though, 27 in January even, so doesn't particularly fit into the club's usual philosophy of getting younger talent.
He is a Liverpool lad though so if we were interested in him, our location within striking distance of presumably where his family may be could be big pulling factor and help him settle better perhaps.
As we've seen with some players through, that step up from League One can be vast, particularly for strikers.
He is a Liverpool lad though so if we were interested in him, our location within striking distance of presumably where his family may be could be big pulling factor and help him settle better perhaps.
As we've seen with some players through, that step up from League One can be vast, particularly for strikers.
We are after that Sam Gallagher again who was at Rovers on loan.
sf;n3406776 said:
Well it wouldn't suprise me if the Owner said he was 50k too expensive(cynical)
Truth here could be that i think he was one of the players involved in a rape scandal in Ibiza in the Summer so perhaps we cooled our interest. Not sure if he was innocent or guilty.
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Mickypne;n3406787 said:
Given that Ridsdale said 'a club' had accepted a PNE record offer (Healy £1.5million) for a striker but they doubled the asking price overnight (£3million +), I expect 'that club' will want significantly more than £2milion for Moore now.