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He’s shit anyhow can you not see that .
Poll Lowe Out
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This sums it up for me.
We simply can't lose both these games this week, 8 defeats in a row is unthinkable, but any result in either just delays the inevitable.
The players look done with him. But the last point of JD's post is what I'm struggling with.
Who? Who do we bring in? PR infamously said about his top drawer having names in but there's not exactly a plethora of managerial talent freely available currently. Back in January when Lowe used his Get out of Jail Free card vs Bristol City there was options out there, I just don't think there is the same options available now.
Anyone going to email Risdale?
PLEASE SOMEONE EMAIL HIM
PLEASE SOMEONE EMAIL HIM
I take the point but there are people out there and there will be a queue of managers wanting to take over. I keep saying it but who amongst the Ipswich fans knew of McKenna, at Sheffield Wednesday of Rohl etc.
If Browne scores on Tuesday, the place will get even more toxic. That might just be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.
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The reality is that it's either going to be a cheap option like Paul Gallagher who was at the game last night, Gareth Ainsworth (God forbid) to try and get the fans back on side, or someone The Riddler has had lined up since last year like Robbie Fowler.
Personally, I'd see if Alex Neil would take it for the season and see how it goes. Make a permanent decision after we've finished paying Lowe's 12month rolling deal off.
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Ridsdale will do the least amount possible. He has proved that over and over again.
We won’t change managers unless threatened with relegation and Craig says “do something”.
And with Ridsdale involved will the next manager do any better?
We won’t change managers unless threatened with relegation and Craig says “do something”.
And with Ridsdale involved will the next manager do any better?
Decent write up and reflections by George.
I don't think I have witnessed that kind of reaction in a 1st game under any manager.
Any hope Peter & Craig had that a few results would win fans around was dispelled.
It's been inviatable for months.
Time to hold their hands up, speak to KR & pay to change manager.
It's a fucking shit show that we've spent all summer delaying the inevitable.
Should have been paid up after last game of last season and the players given a whole pre season under somebody else to implement ideas.
Whoever comes in next, and it will only be a month or so, will be so badly hampered by being hired 10 weeks too late.
Should have been paid up after last game of last season and the players given a whole pre season under somebody else to implement ideas.
Whoever comes in next, and it will only be a month or so, will be so badly hampered by being hired 10 weeks too late.
I’ve not read the thread because it’s Saturday and I’ve got a day of raised bed building ahead, but a genuine question here:
Is there a world where Lowe turns it round to the point the fans are back on side? I think even if he won the next 5, the majority of the fanbase would be turning on him again as soon as we lost the next game. His position is untenable now, not least due to his refusal to take any blame for performances. The fans just dont like him, regardless of results. That, combined with the absolutely dire football, is a recipe for disaster and delaying the inevitable in sacking him is so short-termist it beggars belief.
Part of me feels for Lowe - it must be absolutely rank going to deepdale for him now, and I’d wager he’s dreading every home game at this point. Surely it’s clear to see it’s not working, and it’s incumbent on Ridsdale to make a change. If he isn’t already speaking to other managers to gauge appetite, he’s even more inept than many on here like to make out.
We have some really good players - Woodman is a playoff keeper under the right manager, Lindsay is more than capable of playing at a 7/10 at this level every week, KKH and Thor look really good bits of business and we already know what Whiteman, McCann, Holmes, Riis and Keane can do. Add a sprinkling of youth into that, and some solid lower - mid table championship players, and there’s a squad there that any promising League 1/2 manager would be happy to take a punt on.
Is there a world where Lowe turns it round to the point the fans are back on side? I think even if he won the next 5, the majority of the fanbase would be turning on him again as soon as we lost the next game. His position is untenable now, not least due to his refusal to take any blame for performances. The fans just dont like him, regardless of results. That, combined with the absolutely dire football, is a recipe for disaster and delaying the inevitable in sacking him is so short-termist it beggars belief.
Part of me feels for Lowe - it must be absolutely rank going to deepdale for him now, and I’d wager he’s dreading every home game at this point. Surely it’s clear to see it’s not working, and it’s incumbent on Ridsdale to make a change. If he isn’t already speaking to other managers to gauge appetite, he’s even more inept than many on here like to make out.
We have some really good players - Woodman is a playoff keeper under the right manager, Lindsay is more than capable of playing at a 7/10 at this level every week, KKH and Thor look really good bits of business and we already know what Whiteman, McCann, Holmes, Riis and Keane can do. Add a sprinkling of youth into that, and some solid lower - mid table championship players, and there’s a squad there that any promising League 1/2 manager would be happy to take a punt on.
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If you play entertaining football you get a bit more good grace from fans if you lose.
If you play turgid football and still lose, you get no good grace.
I’d love nothing more than for Ryan to win consistently, to make up for the appalling brand. People haven’t made their minds up overnight, he’s the second longest serving manager in the championship now.
Do we really need a poll regarding this? I’ve made my feelings abundantly clear that he should have been removed ages ago. He’s out of his depth completely, and I can’t see any signs of improvement. In fact, if last night was anything to go by, we are even worse than we were in those horrendous last 5 games of last season. A lot of fans have seen our standards fall dramatically, so why can’t the hierarchy see it.? I’ve criticised Lowe enough, so I think it’s now the turn of Ridsdale and Hemmings. They seem content with Championship football, but the early warning signs are that this season will be a bit battle to avoid relegation if something isn’t done soon. I think it was @Sid Snot that mentioned the players body language last night, and he’s spot on, it was clear as anything that the majority of them aren’t happy. We could bring in 5 or 6 quality players and I don’t think it would make an iota of difference, with Lowe in charge.
Even with infinite universes, I think that horse has bolted.
He's had reprieves after the Wigan game a couple of seasons ago and the Bristol City game last season. Did well for a handful of games after those and then reverted to type.
It's not just the results or style of play now though. There's a huge standoff between him and the fanbase that is more toxic than I've ever seen at the beginning of a new season.
The damage, I feel, is irreparable.
Completely agree - was more musing on the point that it’s past the point of no return. 3 seasons and counting, brand still nowhere to be seen.. we were told by Plymouth fans we’d win or lose multiple games 4-2, there’d be fireworks most nights and it would be a white-knuckle ride. I can’t remember many if any games where we’ve really battered teams.. even when we’ve looked good at 1-0, we sit off and protect at all costs.
Surely the senior management team can see this is only going 1 way, and keeping him in situ is negligent, and it’s also unfair both on fans and on the manager himself. If we lose to Sunderland and Swansea then they’ve got to put him out of his misery.
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How many times last season where RL should of been sacked after that long winless run After Watford defo felt like he should of gone with crowd reaction and defeat possibly QPR home Swansea with that changed squad after end of season there has been many times.
Why is this aloud to continue he shouldn't even be here now and shouldn't of been for many months. Swansea Luton Oxford big games before said International break again.
Why is this aloud to continue he shouldn't even be here now and shouldn't of been for many months. Swansea Luton Oxford big games before said International break again.
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Really?
He's done what exactly to deserve a chance at this level?
I think we all want rid of Lowe but dearie me we have to come up with some better alternatives than him.
You don’t get given a job at the best team in the country if you’re crap, so he must have something about him.
You got any other ideas on who we should look at? That we can afford, Then bring in their backroom staff?