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Mads

Echoes of the sentiments people had for DJ at times in here…

If you want creative maverick types then there’s compromises due to the style they play. So just admit you’d rather have 4 cloggers ratting the ball if you can’t accept that a creative number 10 will lose the ball more than other players and potentially not run as much (myth imo).

He still put it on a plate for Keane and should have had an assist for it, all on one of his bad days after a year of being battered by the inept management team that where here.

Chill out people we’ve literally nobody better than him in that position, haven’t had and won’t have for a long time.
 
Most of our quality incisive passing comes from Mads as does quite a lot of passes given away.
I just reckon it’s a price you have to pay for someone like him at our level.
Our players also have to trust him a lot more and give him the ball even when it’s in a tight area.
I’ve noticed Hughes and Brady in particular are reluctant to do this but we have to play the percentages.
 
Well I’m not going to complain or find fault with any of the players because, they have been held back with a “don’t lose” mentality for months and months and the first game they get to play with a bit more freedom we won and every player on that pitch played their part for each other. One game in with the new management team and we looked so much better, how will we look after a dozen. They are learning new game plans and need to unlearn the same game plan they had for every game. I’m very optimistic for the future now, just give them some time and most of them will become better, much better.
 
Mads is our best player going forward, by some distance. We have to accept that not everything he tries will come off.

There were numerous instances of his class on Saturday, the through ball to Keane, he clipped a little ball in from the corner of the box in the first half that was very dangerous to defend. Wasn't his best game but he's had that pillock screaming at him from the sidelines for 12 months.

I'll judge him after a few months of a manager that will let him play. There is a reason Hecky started him in the 10 role.
 
Tarkovsky said:
Echoes of the sentiments people had for DJ at times in here…

If you want creative maverick types then there’s compromises due to the style they play. So just admit you’d rather have 4 cloggers ratting the ball if you can’t accept that a creative number 10 will lose the ball more than other players and potentially not run as much (myth imo).

He still put it on a plate for Keane and should have had an assist for it, all on one of his bad days after a year of being battered by the inept management team that where here.

Chill out people we’ve literally nobody better than him in that position, haven’t had and won’t have for a long time.
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Against Sunderland, he lost it a few times before slotting Potts through brilliantly to set-up the first goal. Too many "old schoolers" who think midfielders are just for crunching the opposition.
Mads will give the ball away as he tries (and l, importantly, succeeds several times a game) to make things happen - if he never lost the ball trying these passes, he wouldn't be wearing a north end shirt as he'd be at a much higher level.
 
djwoody said:
Against Sunderland, he lost it a few times before slotting Potts through brilliantly to set-up the first goal. Too many "old schoolers" who think midfielders are just for crunching the opposition.
Mads will give the ball away as he tries (and l, importantly, succeeds several times a game) to make things happen - if he never lost the ball trying these passes, he wouldn't be wearing a north end shirt as he'd be at a much higher level.
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Ha what a load of bollocks. I don’t think you will find one PNE fan who thinks that about midfielders. Ledson tries Beckham esque passes and to be fair played an equally good through ball on Saturday as Mads to Keane. Yet one pass on Saturday and Mads is a maverick.

For me I hope it works for him as I am keen to have some creative players in the team. I think it could go either way for Mads. He will either be a club legend or Hecky will lose patience with his lethargic nature and losing the ball more often than not.

I hope it’s the first.
 
Player gets berated as lazy for being a number 10 shocker.

Like DJ, Mads' defensive work is superb. He harries the opposition every time he loses it. And he loses it more than other players because he tries things nobody else does. Like Fernandes for United, he's the only creative outlet we have and gets stick for trying to be creative.

This side looks a lot poorer when Mads isn't in it.
 
Ryan Lowe sucked the life out of this team and sucked the life out of the fans as well. A bit of feel good factor is back long May that continue. Clean slate for all. I like how P. H. said you need the connection between fans and players. Think that’s something Lowe didn’t quite grasp and Alex Neil as well, without that you’ve lost it. Things become toxic and that’s where we were under Lowe.

The future’s bright, the future’s White. 👍







For now.
 
djwoody said:
Against Sunderland, he lost it a few times before slotting Potts through brilliantly to set-up the first goal. Too many "old schoolers" who think midfielders are just for crunching the opposition.
Mads will give the ball away as he tries (and l, importantly, succeeds several times a game) to make things happen - if he never lost the ball trying these passes, he wouldn't be wearing a north end shirt as he'd be at a much higher level.
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How jolly rude, I'm not an " Old Schooler " 😂😂
 
OOOO3 said:
Ha what a load of bollocks. I don’t think you will find one PNE fan who thinks that about midfielders. Ledson tries Beckham esque passes and to be fair played an equally good through ball on Saturday as Mads to Keane. Yet one pass on Saturday and Mads is a maverick.

For me I hope it works for him as I am keen to have some creative players in the team. I think it could go either way for Mads. He will either be a club legend or Hecky will lose patience with his lethargic nature and losing the ball more often than not.

I hope it’s the first.
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Plenty of em sit just to the right of me, so no, definitely not bollocks.
 
OOOO3 said:
Ha what a load of bollocks. I don’t think you will find one PNE fan who thinks that about midfielders. Ledson tries Beckham esque passes and to be fair played an equally good through ball on Saturday as Mads to Keane. Yet one pass on Saturday and Mads is a maverick.

For me I hope it works for him as I am keen to have some creative players in the team. I think it could go either way for Mads. He will either be a club legend or Hecky will lose patience with his lethargic nature and losing the ball more often than not.

I hope it’s the first.
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Also, please look at Ledson's ball retention stats posted on here a few days ago before you start in any way comparing him to a genuine quality playmaker.
Ledson has his role in the squad, no doubt, but it's very different to that of Mads.
 
djwoody said:
Also, please look at Ledson's ball retention stats posted on here a few days ago before you start in any way comparing him to a genuine quality playmaker.
Ledson has his role in the squad, no doubt, but it's very different to that of Mads.
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It's a fair comparison, because Ledson also tries a ton of progressive passing. He's just doing it from a lot deeper than Mads, and also giving it away a lot.
 
Mads is the player with the highest risk/reward profile in the squad. He has to play with the risk of losing the ball occasionally in a safer area (opposition half) as the reward when he pulls off the sublime is potentially a goal for us at the end of it.

In pure probability terms he's absolutely doing the right thing.
 
djwoody said:
Also, please look at Ledson's ball retention stats posted on here a few days ago before you start in any way comparing him to a genuine quality playmaker.
Ledson has his role in the squad, no doubt, but it's very different to that of Mads.
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Both give the ball away too much and whilst I don’t mind a 10 losing it further up the pitch he also loses is in very dangerous positions like on Saturday.

But if we are going to praise Mads for his ball through to Keane we need to also allow the same for Ledsons ball for Kesler-Hayden.

I wouldn’t have Ledson in my starting XI but would Mads (for now) but as I’ve said he will either be a star this season or become a liability.
 
OOOO3 said:
Both give the ball away too much and whilst I don’t mind a 10 losing it further up the pitch he also loses is in very dangerous positions like on Saturday.

But if we are going to praise Mads for his ball through to Keane we need to also allow the same for Ledsons ball for Kesler-Hayden.

I wouldn’t have Ledson in my starting XI but would Mads (for now) but as I’ve said he will either be a star this season or become a liability.
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The fact he was in double figures for goal involvements in his first season in the division suggests more of a star than a liability to me.
 
stf4ever said:
The fact he was in double figures for goal involvements in his first season in the division suggests more of a star than a liability to me.
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Really hope that is the case. Keane was also but some fans are willing to sell him.
 
OOOO3 said:
Both give the ball away too much and whilst I don’t mind a 10 losing it further up the pitch he also loses is in very dangerous positions like on Saturday.

But if we are going to praise Mads for his ball through to Keane we need to also allow the same for Ledsons ball for Kesler-Hayden.

I wouldn’t have Ledson in my starting XI but would Mads (for now) but as I’ve said he will either be a star this season or become a liability.
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I know throughout posting history that you are devoid of a sense of humour...But basing your argument on Ledson V Mads shows that you might be developing one. 😀
 
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