Time to get real- we are a Championship side and Maxwell is certainly one of the best in this league. He has saved us a lot more than he has let the side down.We have TWO excellent goalies and a bit more support from the back line would certainly help
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paolo poggi;n3400202 said:
Rather surprisingly Paolo, I don't think many people are going to blame the forward line for Maxwell's stupidity. You'd think he'd have learnt his lesson after giving away the penalty. Obviously not.
Baldygit;n3400203 said:
Maxwell is not one of the best in this league. If he was, when it was clear he was starting the season as back up, we surely would have had loads of offers for him? I think Bristol City were the only side to make an enquiry.
We have two average keepers at this level.
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kingpne;n3400204 said:
Earl was to blame, quite clearly to any viewer, for thumping the ball 60 yards back to his keeper rather than sticking it in row X but if you have an agenda to slaughter a certain player (in this case clearly your target is Maxwell and not Earl), then you'll paint it that way.
Keepers are inherently mad. Maxwell tried to take the initiative and made a mistake.
Chill out and give the chap a break.
norky84;n3400217 said:
Oh ye of little faith
paolo poggi;n3400222 said:
Paolo. Josh Earl's backpass wasn't even bad. Maxwell's first touch set it up nicely for him himself to smack it into Row Z. Instead he tries to be clever, thinking he's better than he is, and costs us a goal.
Then, still being thick as a plank, comes charging out of his goal for absolutely no reason. It's not like the guy he fouled had an open net and he saved us a goal. Taking the initiative the first time is fine but when you don't learn from your mistakes, it's a problem.
How you can claim I have an agenda against Maxwell, when it is clearly his fault, is absurd.
kingpne;n3400077 said:
Not really cost us points has he as we were drawing 0-0 when he made his mistake and drawing 1-1 when he got sent off. If we were winning and they equalised then I would agree with you.
Since Maxwell has been in we have had an unbeaten run of 6 and if it wasn't for him we would have lost at Villa.
Ron Burgundy;n3400248 said:
The team held it together and got the point in spite of Maxwell. Him going off without doubt made it more difficult to win the game, even though we still created a couple of chances.
It cannot be denied that he had a very negative impact on the game for us.
What happened at Ipswich reinforced my view that despite having the raw attributes to be quality at this level, his decision making is nowhere near intelligent enough to be a top keeper at this level.
sedgwick__7;n3400249 said:
He does need to cool it a bit and get back to last seasons early form where he was very good for us.
Maxwell fills me with much more confidence than Rudd and when he comes for it he gets it right more times than wrong.
I'd say only twice now (Fulham and Ipswich) where he has made genuine mistakes that have cost us that are solely down to him.
For the first yellow card Earl really did throw Maxwell under the bus when there was alternative options (Considering the timing Row z would have been one). Plus it is clearly not a penalty or a yellow card, but I can see why the inept linesman gave it. Yes , the second is just sheer stupidity. Will Maxwell get a one game ban? if so, I would bring him straight back in the team after the ban. Give me a keeper who is proactive and tries to command his box over one rooted to his line any time. The occasional rush of blood you have to live with
Ron Burgundy;n3400250 said:
To compare him to Rudd obviously sheds him in a better light, but it's not difficult to have been better than Rudd this season because he was dreadful at times.
We need a keeper who we can rely upon, and in reality neither are good enough if we want to progress. The same could be said for other positions in the squad though, but after 2 years of second-rate recruitment and the sale of some key, experienced players with no real reinvestment, that's where we are at as a club.
As for the Earl backpass, it's a trend we seem to have where the ball goes from front to back very quickly. The Birmingham home game last year when Maxwell (and to some extent Huntington) messed up I'm pretty sure we had a corner and suddenly we pelted it straight back to the keeper, then poor distribution led to a goal against usl. Earl had a poor game in general and didn't stake a claim to start instead of Hughes.
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We have debated the 'keeper situation at length in the past and the reason is that neither of them are particularly good at this level and, when all is said and done, there isn't a lot to choose between them, it just comes down to personal preference.
I probably prefer Maxwell in general apart from the fact that he occasionally goes mad and does something stupid. Fair enough, that's his style, but that shouldn't come at the expense of sensible decision making. "That's the way he plays" is no defence to stuff like that. He's old enough and experienced enough to have learnt better.
I probably prefer Maxwell in general apart from the fact that he occasionally goes mad and does something stupid. Fair enough, that's his style, but that shouldn't come at the expense of sensible decision making. "That's the way he plays" is no defence to stuff like that. He's old enough and experienced enough to have learnt better.
Ron Burgundy;n3400250 said:
Derby (H) as well. Massive game - you could go as far as saying having Alan Browne on penalties and dropping Rudd for that game cost us a place in the top 6.
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Watched the replay again and again and I'd defend him all day re the penalty. The back pass gave him no option but to try and control it ( it was too high for a first time leathering into row z ) and to be perfectly honest it was a dam good knock round the forward and if he hadn't overhit it and the right winger hadn't been steaming in at 100mph then he may well have come out of that looking a bloody hero..... The second yellow however was a body check that should never have been needed in the first place but even that he'd have got away with had he been a bit faster and the winger been a bit slower...
Here ends the case for the defence,
Verdict... Maxwells our best Keeper and I'd rather him carry on playing sweeper and dropping the odd howler rather than Rudd rooted to his line for 90 mins and putting us under pressure everytime theres a corner or free kick put into the penalty area by the opposition....
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Here ends the case for the defence,
Verdict... Maxwells our best Keeper and I'd rather him carry on playing sweeper and dropping the odd howler rather than Rudd rooted to his line for 90 mins and putting us under pressure everytime theres a corner or free kick put into the penalty area by the opposition....
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Aitch;n3400336 said:
Arguably cost us a point v West Brom as well. Lost 3-2 and he should have saved their 3rd.
People need to closely watch Maxwell. One of his strengths ahead of Rudd was his ability to come off his line and claim catches off corners and free kicks. This season, Maxwell has hardly done this. He has been stuck on his line for these a lot more than previous seasons.
Jack Daniels;n3399777 said:
Disagree with you there. It was a ridiculous boot back to the keeper from the half way line (why did Earl do that?) and was very difficult for Maxwell to control without using his hands. If he had tried to clear it first time, it could have ended in disaster as well. So to quote your phrase, I fail to see where Maxwell gets the blame for that one.
Second incident was obviously an aberration, but his lack of concentration and poor decision making could have been brought about by the incident in the first half.
Not saying Maxwell is faultless, but as others have said Pearson is always excused his antics (6 yellows, 1 red, missed 4 games), yet Maxwell is hung out to dry.