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“There’s gonna be an Assembly, when the first ever Yankee scores at Wembley. And it’s a Praise for Sheffield Wednesday”
Anyway, showing my age now.
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Anyway, showing my age now.
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Doubt anyone would want to know your details; more importantly, doubt mods would even think of leaking them and why on earth have you not tried to 'turn around' the mighty SW ?
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Tbh mate, out mods are pretty sound on here. Shit like that just doesn't go on.
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Can you imagine what bell ends they will drag up on Talksport when we do fire Ryan to spout the usual 'got em punching above their weight'/'played the game in the right way'/'hard done by/typical of the modern day over ambition from fans'.
He's just crap. We know it. Every metric you apply shows it. Leeds has really dragged this out. Chelsea will be a compo gathering exercise then chop.
He's just crap. We know it. Every metric you apply shows it. Leeds has really dragged this out. Chelsea will be a compo gathering exercise then chop.
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We're overachieving; Lowe is exceeding expectations; be thankful for what we have.
Is that you, @PeterRidsdale?
Have we had MLB at Wembley?
We have never and will never leak any users personal details.
We always of course do our due diligence on new users who raise suspicions by many of our users.
Folk had been accusing you of being someone from within PNE - we have actually done you a favour 😉
As someone who works for a business turnaround company surely the way you work is to apply management talent, new ideas, a new plan and forward thinking to a business which is struggling?
I doubt the plan involves throwing huge amounts of cash at it.
I'm surprised at your attitude towards what we PNE fans have been asking for, which is namely some new management talent, new ideas, a new plan and some forward thinking.
Not necessarily more cash.
As you're from a business background how do you account for Aldi making Tesco crap themselves?
I would suggest the same way Brentford and Luton have embarrassed the big clubs in our division by thinking and acting differently.
This is about #teamslikepreston As it gets. If you can't understand our ungratefullness try and come and watch some of our games.
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Well after reading this I am going to sing and clap wildly until every last player has left the field.
Sorry in advance to those sat around me.
Sorry in advance to those sat around me.
Don't say that the fuck wit won't fucking leave and we'll be stuck with another tosser like Coley and gallynuge
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Does coley just keep on registering as new accounts.
him, galley nuge and now this guy seem to have the same posting style.
him, galley nuge and now this guy seem to have the same posting style.
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Mods delete this and my last post on this thread if you want. I’ve just re read the rest of the thread. Clearly not galleynuge
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Not seen that Coley around for some time nice change and peaceful 😃
I actually found this quite an interesting read tbh. I don't like the facts, but they are hard to deny if your research is correct. Others have pointed out that it's not solely about money, but budgets and financial support are indicators of success in football, so as much as I don't like it, it's sadly a factor that our chances at reaching the EPL are reduced by not having the same budgets and financial backing of clubs around us.
In my opinion, that leaves us with the option of buying wisely and getting the most out of our collective players and their abilities in the hope we can defy the odds. The issue is that RL isn't an effective manager despite being backed and provided with a capable squad. A proven and credible manager would be doing much more with this squad. (which is my personal gripe and the answer to your question). I could potentially accept our current position and mid-table mediocrity with the squad before the recent investment and backing, but not now.
I also think the frustration lies in knowing that RL's incessant style and approach is going to plummet us into a relegation battle, whilst also pushing our better players to look to leave for better clubs. The latter is the biggest concern because we have a fairly strong squad, but losing good players not only sets us back, it makes us a less attractive club for the up and coming talent we would need to get us to the EPL without the budgets and finances of the better clubs that rely on more proven players that they can attract with higher signing fees and wages!
Can you see why there are so many despondent fans at this moment in time?
You're obviously new here so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but that would never happen on this forum.
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That's because you haven't been watching us play. We have. He's the second longest serving manager in the league so we've seen enough of him for us to feel like we've got a full grasp of his capabilities. He isn't capable of getting us promoted. You could make the argument that he could with more money but as you point out, we're not the club for significant investment. As such you're expecting us to be happy having a manager not capable of taking us anywhere further than midtable despite our owners investing more than we've seen in recent years.
Plus, most issues fans have with him is that he hasn't been delivering on his promises, demonstrates significant tactical naivety, and his personality pisses off a significant number of people every few press conferences. Many people consider him dislikeable and he hasn't demonstrated enough of anything to make the argument that he should be kept. Oh wow he's got us midtable, we're so happy. Grayson could never do that, oh wait he did. Alex Neil could never do that, oh wait he did. Frankie McAvoy could never do that, oh wait he did.
Well from the inside, we've been told that our aim is to fight for promotion and 2 years down the line, we're no closer. 8 years if you want to include Ridsdale in the mix.
Also more than Luton and Bournemouth. Not much less than Watford despite them being a Premier League yoyo side in recent years.
If the league was just based on attendances, you'd be a top half team, West Brom wouldn't be in the playoffs, Watford wouldn't be a Premier League yoyo team, Sunderland would be top of the table.
They're billionaires
A big problem at our club is our lack of effort in improving our revenue. Ridsdale likes to outsource all of our potential revenue streams. Plus we've been wasting contracts on players who won't earn us any money.
If the league was just based on financial power, Luton wouldn't have got into the Premier League, Coventry wouldn't have reached the playoffs last season, Huddersfield too a couple years ago, etc etc
There's more to football than just financial power and number of bums on seats. Our team isn't significantly worse than the teams around us, the problem is we aren't coached well. It's got nothing to do with thinking we're better than the teams around us, it's about the sheer number of poor performances we've watched, the complete tactical ineptitude on display every week, the wasting of the talent we do have.
Fantastic example. They've been among the smaller budgeted sides each season. This year they've actually managed to spend money because they've sold Gyokeres and Hamer. We were linked with Gyokeres a while back before he'd joined Coventry. Imagine if we'd bought him and then sold him on for profit. That could've been us. We've had a problem with the way we're run for years because we've missed out on potentially valuable players like Gyokeres and instead been extending contracts of players like Ledson and Woodburn who we won't sell on for money.
Now you could say that's not Lowe's fault but this year we've actually been investing in players like that (e.g. Osmaijic and Frokjaer). Even then, we're still not performing and Lowe doesn't seem to have a clue how to improve those players. So it doesn't look like we could do a Coventry with Lowe in charge. Plus Ledson and Woodburn both had their contracts extended under Lowe's reign.
Do you? Pretty sure you've spent less than us this season.
We've been in the Championship for 8 seasons now. We're well established as a midtable side. We've stayed exactly where we already were.
Literally last year
Revenue doesn't equal budget
Exactly, they're well run. We've not been well run but as I pointed out earlier, Lowe isn't the man for us to do the buy cheaper and sell big. He hasn't been improving our most valuable assets.
With the greatest respect, it doesn't really matter how we look to you. You're never going to understand our situation because you're an outsider and you've come on here to tell us that there's no point competing (even though that's bollocks). It's almost like you think we don't read our own clubs accounts and don't have issues with our ownership. The poll against Lowe isn't even as one-sided as the one against Ridsdale. More people have a problem with Ridsdale and the way our club operates under him. The thing is we have to watch Lowe's football too. We've seen better football with smaller budgets and more likeable managers at the helm. But no we should just accept our lot because we're just little Preston.
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I could only see Wednesday having a bigger budget than us if they're spending half of it on Barry Bannan's wages. At that point you don't really have a bigger budget if so much of it is going on just one player. Everyone else would be on significantly lower wages and so worse quality. It'd be like operating on one of the smallest budgets in the league just to keep hold of Bannan (who wouldn't be worth it)
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There just had to be a connection with our Robert somewhere, given the number of failed business/football club ventures he’s had that needed turning around. 😜😜😜