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Matchday Thread QPR v PNE - 20/04/24 - KO:5.15pm - Championship

Matchday Thread QPR v PNE - 20/04/24 - KO:5.15pm - Championship

Dreyfuss said:
Our owners are sat in their IOM tax haven looking at Luton in the Premiership, Coventry in a FA Cup semi final and Ipswich in an automatic promotion slot.

And they (and some fans on here) are supposedly sat thinking "yeah, we are making real progress at North End. We are a well run club".

Yet we've not had a top six finish at championship level since 2008/09. The Hemmings took control in 2010/11. This is no coincidence - it's just indicative of the ambition of this hierarchy.

After downgrading our academy a decade ago it has produced largely nothing, while other clubs are making multi millions.

Blackburn: Adam Wharton (£18m), Birmingham: Jude Bellingham (£30m), Bristol City: Alex Scott (£25m), Hull City: Lewis-Potter (£16m), Norwich: Jamal Lewis (15m) to name a few.

While other teams are investing in new training grounds and new staff, we sit insisting what we have is good enough. No need for changes. Even building a £1.5m dome is beyond us, cos we'd rather bareface lie and say it'll cost £5m+.

All whilst "dodgy" owners like Vincent Tan at "not well run" Cardiff have invested millions in a new academy site just a year ago.

In Coventry's recent accounts it stated it was the "club’s intentions to reach the EFL play-offs at least three times in the next five years and ultimately to re-join the Premier League".

What do north end fans get?

Progress is finishing 11th, rather than 12th.

Progress is an anti-football brand that staves off short term relegation fears, rather than developing an actual club footballing philosophy designed for a successful, sustainable future.

Progress is keeping everyone in their roles from chairman to manager to coaching staff to players for as long as physically possible, for fear of any outsiders coming in with greater ambition & ideas of being something more than what we are right now.

Progress is a self induced coma where the club happily lie prone dreaming of success, but can't (or in our case... won't) actually move a muscle to make anything good happen.
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Dreyfuss said:
Our owners are sat in their IOM tax haven looking at Luton in the Premiership, Coventry in a FA Cup semi final and Ipswich in an automatic promotion slot.

And they (and some fans on here) are supposedly sat thinking "yeah, we are making real progress at North End. We are a well run club".

Yet we've not had a top six finish at championship level since 2008/09. The Hemmings took control in 2010/11. This is no coincidence - it's just indicative of the ambition of this hierarchy.

After downgrading our academy a decade ago it has produced largely nothing, while other clubs are making multi millions.

Blackburn: Adam Wharton (£18m), Birmingham: Jude Bellingham (£30m), Bristol City: Alex Scott (£25m), Hull City: Lewis-Potter (£16m), Norwich: Jamal Lewis (15m) to name a few.

While other teams are investing in new training grounds and new staff, we sit insisting what we have is good enough. No need for changes. Even building a £1.5m dome is beyond us, cos we'd rather bareface lie and say it'll cost £5m+.

All whilst "dodgy" owners like Vincent Tan at "not well run" Cardiff have invested millions in a new academy site just a year ago.

In Coventry's recent accounts it stated it was the "club’s intentions to reach the EFL play-offs at least three times in the next five years and ultimately to re-join the Premier League".

What do north end fans get?

Progress is finishing 11th, rather than 12th.

Progress is an anti-football brand that staves off short term relegation fears, rather than developing an actual club footballing philosophy designed for a successful, sustainable future.

Progress is keeping everyone in their roles from chairman to manager to coaching staff to players for as long as physically possible, for fear of any outsiders coming in with greater ambition & ideas of being something more than what we are right now.

Progress is a self induced coma where the club happily lie prone dreaming of success, but can't (or in our case... won't) actually move a muscle to make anything good happen.
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Cannot like this enough. Fantastic post
 
Dreyfuss said:
Our owners are sat in their IOM tax haven looking at Luton in the Premiership, Coventry in a FA Cup semi final and Ipswich in an automatic promotion slot.

And they (and some fans on here) are supposedly sat thinking "yeah, we are making real progress at North End. We are a well run club".

Yet we've not had a top six finish at championship level since 2008/09. The Hemmings took control in 2010/11. This is no coincidence - it's just indicative of the ambition of this hierarchy.

After downgrading our academy a decade ago it has produced largely nothing, while other clubs are making multi millions.

Blackburn: Adam Wharton (£18m), Birmingham: Jude Bellingham (£30m), Bristol City: Alex Scott (£25m), Hull City: Lewis-Potter (£16m), Norwich: Jamal Lewis (15m) to name a few.

While other teams are investing in new training grounds and new staff, we sit insisting what we have is good enough. No need for changes. Even building a £1.5m dome is beyond us, cos we'd rather bareface lie and say it'll cost £5m+.

All whilst "dodgy" owners like Vincent Tan at "not well run" Cardiff have invested millions in a new academy site just a year ago.

In Coventry's recent accounts it stated it was the "club’s intentions to reach the EFL play-offs at least three times in the next five years and ultimately to re-join the Premier League".

What do north end fans get?

Progress is finishing 11th, rather than 12th.

Progress is an anti-football brand that staves off short term relegation fears, rather than developing an actual club footballing philosophy designed for a successful, sustainable future.

Progress is keeping everyone in their roles from chairman to manager to coaching staff to players for as long as physically possible, for fear of any outsiders coming in with greater ambition & ideas of being something more than what we are right now.

Progress is a self induced coma where the club happily lie prone dreaming of success, but can't (or in our case... won't) actually move a muscle to make anything good happen.
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Superb summary of the complacency and lack of ambition throughout the club . Mediocrity is the height of ambition on and off the pitch . And we the fans are supposed to be grateful and accepting of it . Everything about the place is stale and boring and tatty . It's like death by a thousand cuts , the chances of a top 6 finish or a cup semi like Coventry just had get further away each season .
 
Dreyfuss said:
Our owners are sat in their IOM tax haven looking at Luton in the Premiership, Coventry in a FA Cup semi final and Ipswich in an automatic promotion slot.

And they (and some fans on here) are supposedly sat thinking "yeah, we are making real progress at North End. We are a well run club".

Yet we've not had a top six finish at championship level since 2008/09. The Hemmings took control in 2010/11. This is no coincidence - it's just indicative of the ambition of this hierarchy.

After downgrading our academy a decade ago it has produced largely nothing, while other clubs are making multi millions.

Blackburn: Adam Wharton (£18m), Birmingham: Jude Bellingham (£30m), Bristol City: Alex Scott (£25m), Hull City: Lewis-Potter (£16m), Norwich: Jamal Lewis (15m) to name a few.

While other teams are investing in new training grounds and new staff, we sit insisting what we have is good enough. No need for changes. Even building a £1.5m dome is beyond us, cos we'd rather bareface lie and say it'll cost £5m+.

All whilst "dodgy" owners like Vincent Tan at "not well run" Cardiff have invested millions in a new academy site just a year ago.

In Coventry's recent accounts it stated it was the "club’s intentions to reach the EFL play-offs at least three times in the next five years and ultimately to re-join the Premier League".

What do north end fans get?

Progress is finishing 11th, rather than 12th.

Progress is an anti-football brand that staves off short term relegation fears, rather than developing an actual club footballing philosophy designed for a successful, sustainable future.

Progress is keeping everyone in their roles from chairman to manager to coaching staff to players for as long as physically possible, for fear of any outsiders coming in with greater ambition & ideas of being something more than what we are right now.

Progress is a self induced coma where the club happily lie prone dreaming of success, but can't (or in our case... won't) actually move a muscle to make anything good happen.
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This should be sent to the club.
 
Dreyfuss said:
Our owners are sat in their IOM tax haven looking at Luton in the Premiership, Coventry in a FA Cup semi final and Ipswich in an automatic promotion slot.

And they (and some fans on here) are supposedly sat thinking "yeah, we are making real progress at North End. We are a well run club".

Yet we've not had a top six finish at championship level since 2008/09. The Hemmings took control in 2010/11. This is no coincidence - it's just indicative of the ambition of this hierarchy.

After downgrading our academy a decade ago it has produced largely nothing, while other clubs are making multi millions.

Blackburn: Adam Wharton (£18m), Birmingham: Jude Bellingham (£30m), Bristol City: Alex Scott (£25m), Hull City: Lewis-Potter (£16m), Norwich: Jamal Lewis (15m) to name a few.

While other teams are investing in new training grounds and new staff, we sit insisting what we have is good enough. No need for changes. Even building a £1.5m dome is beyond us, cos we'd rather bareface lie and say it'll cost £5m+.

All whilst "dodgy" owners like Vincent Tan at "not well run" Cardiff have invested millions in a new academy site just a year ago.

In Coventry's recent accounts it stated it was the "club’s intentions to reach the EFL play-offs at least three times in the next five years and ultimately to re-join the Premier League".

What do north end fans get?

Progress is finishing 11th, rather than 12th.

Progress is an anti-football brand that staves off short term relegation fears, rather than developing an actual club footballing philosophy designed for a successful, sustainable future.

Progress is keeping everyone in their roles from chairman to manager to coaching staff to players for as long as physically possible, for fear of any outsiders coming in with greater ambition & ideas of being something more than what we are right now.

Progress is a self induced coma where the club happily lie prone dreaming of success, but can't (or in our case... won't) actually move a muscle to make anything good happen.
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Flippin eck you have wrote some absolutely superb posts in the last couple of days.
 
Muzza said:
Come on @Victorthesecond, tell us if that wouldn't work?
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The Craig Hemmings proclamation about the Club and the finances made it very clear the there was a limit to what the would do to support the Club's finances and it seemed that they would be very happy if someone would remove the burden.

Dream on if you think they will throw more and more cash at things like sponsorship and buying up tickets to give away ...why should they ... what return would THEY get from chucking more money into the black hole?
 
MalkySee said:
The Craig Hemmings proclamation about the Club and the finances made it very clear the there was a limit to what the would do to support the Club's finances and it seemed that they would be very happy if someone would remove the burden.

Dream on if you think they will throw more and more cash at things like sponsorship and buying up tickets to give away ...why should they ... what return would THEY get from chucking more money into the black hole?
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Perhaps owning a football club isn't for them and they should seek a sale asap then? Or was the now convicted felon Kirchner the start and end of their search?

Our loving benefactors seem to be desperately praying for a new EFL / Prem deal, which could mean we'd be restricted to spending only 70% of revenue.

It's a rather strange mindset to have whilst we are simultaneously doing our utmost not to raise our revenue streams.

Such enforced financial restrictions would save the Hemmings a lot of money but ultimately condemn us to an inevitable relegation imho. Which is the return us deluded fans would get outta the deal.
 
MalkySee said:
The Craig Hemmings proclamation about the Club and the finances made it very clear the there was a limit to what the would do to support the Club's finances and it seemed that they would be very happy if someone would remove the burden.

Dream on if you think they will throw more and more cash at things like sponsorship and buying up tickets to give away ...why should they ... what return would THEY get from chucking more money into the black hole?
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I absolutely don't think they would spend more at all. They are using the FFP as an excuse to the fans though, as they could do more if they wanted. Why don't they just have the balls to say that they only consider themselves as caretaking until a buyer is found (not gonna happen while Ridsdale is there), and that they have no intention of attempting to achieve the fans' ambitions. They're happy with mediocrity and if they can avoid relegation then great.
 
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