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Rafferty

Rafferty

Mancunian White said:
At similar ages, Joe was playing Championship football, and will likely go to a mid-high league one side.

Marnick is playing amateur football in the Belgium 3rd tier.

Rafferty is clear.
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Im not really bothered what they've gone on to do after us. We've had plenty of flops who have done well for us, and plenty of our good players have flopped elsewhere.

Marnick was really, really bad, but it is undeniable he offered more of a threat going forward than Joe Rafferty, who seldom crossed the halfway line.

I don't think there's much in it, but if you forced me to pick one of the two to fit into this RL system my answer would 100% be Vermijl
 
Good pro, probably played to the limit of his ability with us, so not quite championship standard, but that's no disgrace.
Can't ask for more than for Players to do there best and find a 'level'.
Any Pro footballer who makes the most of there talents deserves respect, and he does(IMO).
All the best for the rest of his career.
 
Tino said:
2 reds in 68 games? Not exactly horrific. Though the one Vs Rovers was absolutely horrific defending.
I only remember 1 own goal which was a bit unlucky as he had to try and make the block
How many penalties did he give away?

Whilst not the best quality wise he always gave it everything he had and I'm sure he'll have a few league 1 clubs after him.
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I think a lot of times, people were so fed up of Fisher's antics Rafferty earned plaudits simply for not being Fisher, despite Darnell being significantly better in every aspect of the position.

The 2 reds were shocking, the knee high challenge against Fulham when they were already down to 10 was just as unforgivable.

His rugby tackles on Brereton and Lucas Joao were equally laughable
 
When all that fans can do is call you “reliable, dependable, hard working” etc it’s probably an indictment of his lack of quality - physically, technically, tactically.

Had to play LB as if he was isolated on the right he’d stand off so much that his opposite number was entering the final 3rd without doing anything. At LB he could at least show players inside and prevent isolations.

Good luck to him, but let’s not pretend he’s not been a waste of a wage.
 
Lee Trundle said:
I think a lot of times, people were so fed up of Fisher's antics Rafferty earned plaudits simply for not being Fisher, despite Darnell being significantly better in every aspect of the position.

The 2 reds were shocking, the knee high challenge against Fulham when they were already down to 10 was just as unforgivable.

His rugby tackles on Brereton and Lucas Joao were equally laughable
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How many penalties did he give away?
 
oli_oconnell said:
When all that fans can do is call you “reliable, dependable, hard working” etc it’s probably an indictment of his lack of quality - physically, technically, tactically.
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Sounds similar to the Browne "had an off day with his passing but worked his socks off and kept going" stuff we read most weeks.
 
oli_oconnell said:
When all that fans can do is call you “reliable, dependable, hard working” etc it’s probably an indictment of his lack of quality - physically, technically, tactically.

Had to play LB as if he was isolated on the right he’d stand off so much that his opposite number was entering the final 3rd without doing anything. At LB he could at least show players inside and prevent isolations.

Good luck to him, but let’s not pretend he’s not been a waste of a wage.
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It depends how you define "waste of a wage". For me Rafferty was a cheap punt that hasn't worked out. He was a decent squad player but nothing more and certainly we need better if we are to press on.

"Waste of a wage" for me is a phrase reserved for the likes of Wickham, Izzy Brown and Murphy.
 
Damp Squib said:
It depends how you define "waste of a wage". For me Rafferty was a cheap punt that hasn't worked out. He was a decent squad player but nothing more and certainly we need better if we are to press on.

"Waste of a wage" for me is a phrase reserved for the likes of Wickham, Izzy Brown and Murphy.
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He managed 48 league starts in 3-and-a-half years.

Didn't even get into the last two 25-man squad lists the first time around.

This was a cheap punt that worked out exactly the way everyone sensible expected it would - just like Izzy, Wickham, Thomas, etc.
 
Damp Squib said:
It depends how you define "waste of a wage". For me Rafferty was a cheap punt that hasn't worked out. He was a decent squad player but nothing more and certainly we need better if we are to press on.

"Waste of a wage" for me is a phrase reserved for the likes of Wickham, Izzy Brown and Murphy.
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Say Rafferty is on £4,000 a week and he’s been here for 3.5 years, that’s £700,000+ on wages alone. It’s not peanuts for a small club cutting their cloth accordingly.

Think the difference for me is that he wasn’t a decent squad player in my eyes, I thought he offered very very little when he played.
 
He had his best spell covering for Hughes injury in 2019 under AN when he was a regular in the team that briefly topped the league. He always put in the effort and I think he’ll do a decent job with a competitive league 1 team.
 
oli_oconnell said:
Say Rafferty is on £4,000 a week and he’s been here for 3.5 years, that’s £700,000+ on wages alone. It’s not peanuts for a small club cutting their cloth accordingly.

Think the difference for me is that he wasn’t a decent squad player in my eyes, I thought he offered very very little when he played.
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That's a hell of a lot of guesswork on your part. But, for arguments sake, if we say those figures are in the right ballpark, I don't actually thing that's too bad for a player who's made 48 league starts and however many more sub and cup appearances.

Ultimately it's a squad game. Rafferty was cover. Fisher was at the time always first choice, then that was taken over by Sepp and now Pottsy.

Using that same argument, you could describe every player who isn't first-choice as "a waste of wages".
 
Damp Squib said:
That's a hell of a lot of guesswork on your part. But, for arguments sake, if we say those figures are in the right ballpark, I don't actually thing that's too bad for a player who's made 48 league starts and however many more sub and cup appearances.

Ultimately it's a squad game. Rafferty was cover. Fisher was at the time always first choice, then that was taken over by Sepp and now Pottsy.

Using that same argument, you could describe every player who isn't first-choice as "a waste of wages".
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Got a pretty good idea what he’s on, not much guesswork involved.

And I know as well as anybody that it’s a squad game. Just don’t think Rafferty added pretty much any quality to the squad.
 
Damp Squib said:
It is - I was simply intrigued to know why you considered him a waste of wages. I'll let Ryan to know we only need 11 players next year, he'll be delighted.
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I’ve explained why.

But I’ll expand.

I think he was poor physically, no running power, little strength, little pace, aerially small. Didn’t add anything to the side in this regard and it’s a big reason (imo) why he was shifted to LB - can come inside and combine easier there rather than being isolated and having to go outside players on the right.

I was think he was very conservative as a player - defensively didn’t engage in many duels at all, backed off opponents and let them gain ground regularly before engaging, generally on the back foot.

Didn’t really add anything technically either for me. No quality in attacking areas and didn’t really contribute to progressing the ball when deeper either through cute passing or dribbling.

Essentially I think he offered very very little and when he played I think we carried him. Hence I think he was a waste of a signing and as a result a waste of £700,000.
 
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