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didn't we supposedly turn down an approach form Cardiff for Maguire in January? Wonder if they're still interested, might not be as hard as people are suggesting to get rid of him when/if we bring in another striker
 
jamesOB said:
A few of the youngsters don’t sound best pleased in their goodbye messages
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Completely understandable, you wouldn't expect otherwise. Hopefully they'll use that disappointment as motivation to prove the club wrong. Good luck to them.
 
northender2 said:
didn't we supposedly turn down an approach form Cardiff for Maguire in January? Wonder if they're still interested, might not be as hard as people are suggesting to get rid of him when/if we bring in another striker
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You would hope that's the case. Otherwise, as has been pointed out, we only have room for one more striker. I'd be more than happy for Evans to be one of the four, if he could keep fit, but at the moment, he's no more than a bit part player.
 
Dreyfuss said:
Whilst I agree, plenty on here wanted Evans starting with Archer every week just a couple of months ago. His lack of goals was supposedly not an issue back then. There was a double standards approach to Evans and Maguire.
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In his defence, Evans doesnt get tackled by thin air.
 
Garden Gnome said:
I actually think ALL our retained squad are open ......to the right offer. However, I don't think the offer would need to be very large for Maguire or Evans.
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But, these kind of statements are pretty pointless. Much like when people tell us the club has been up for sale for a decade. Of course everything has its price. We know that.

But what really matters is our current active intention to remove certain players from the squad. Or in the case of the club itself, the current level of desire the Hemmings clan have in terms of selling up.

Harrop, Bayliss and Olosunde now know where they stand. I think that's a good thing. Freeze them out, and make the idea of sitting out their contract at Euxton as untenable as possible. For the good of the careers they should move on.

If we manage to make the key acquisitions we want, I'm sure we will push a few more towards the exit door. A few will already know their chances of getting match action next season will be extremely limited.
 
chorleythehord said:
I think we will whittle it down further to look something like this

New Keeper prem loan, New Keeper- league 1 or 2 recruit as back up , youth keeper as 3rd choice for 'training'

RCB - Storey, new recruit (Diaby)
LCB- Hughes, Lindsay (Cunningham)
CCB - Bauer , Diaby (Lindsay)

RWB potts, new recruit
LWB Cunningham, new recruit, (DJ)

DCM - Whiteman, Ledson
Box to Box - McCann, (Browne)
ACM - DJ, Browne


Striker 1- Riis, new recruit- prem loan
Striker 2 - Evans ,New recruit - overseas market , New recruit - lower league or non-league gamble,

That's 22 players plus a youth keeper - cover for all positions - and means Maguire and Earl will likely be open to offers and more likely to attract them than the others said to be 'open to offers'.

On top of I expect Mikey O Neill to be looking to break through, which would mean if he does Evans would be next out.
Heard good things about Mawene too. Don't know enough about the rest , but feel for the young lads let go.

8 positions to recruit for. It is essential in my view that we recruit directly with the team formation in mind plus what cover we already have so we get a balanced squad. We must not make the mistakes of the past with players being bought and laid to waste because there was no opening for them. I would be looking to young players from Prem clubs who want to play football, on loan if needs be, and also abroad
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That would be an excellent window if we can move on Maguire and Earl as well as the 3 listed
The 7/8 recruits will have to be quality though.
To me the defence looks the weakest link.
 
northender2 said:
sounds like Holland Wilkinson already has options elsewhere

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Pretty sure most of our young released lads will be picked up by clubs with an u23s. Sadly this restricts the lads we can keep on, too old for u19s and no u23s restricts them to central league games or trying to get a loan move, not great for development. Exactly the reason a certain Dolan decided to move on.
 
Lee Trundle said:
In his defence, Evans doesnt get tackled by thin air.
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Yeah it depends what attributes you like to see in a "striker" I guess. I'm not keen on either of their skillsets, which both seem more suited to L1.

For what it's worth, Evans has a 1.17 ppm, whilst Maguire has 1.46 ppm this season. So for all his air tackles, we have gained more points when Maguire has played this season.
 
Pnebraddy87 said:
Pretty sure most of our young released lads will be picked up by clubs with an u23s. Sadly this restricts the lads we can keep on, too old for u19s and no u23s restricts them to central league games or trying to get a loan move, not great for development. Exactly the reason a certain Dolan decided to move on.
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Central League matches and EFL loans weren’t really available when Dolan moved on. The Central League is good experience now for the youths and, if James Beet is successful, there will be some EFL loans too.
 
pne1971 said:
Earl is obviously seen as a Left sided CB by RL, so if Bambo signs and Storey comes back in the CB positions are what they are.
RCB Storey, Bambo
LCB Hughes Earl
CB Bauer Lindsay


Not massively strong but adequate for a top 6 push imo.
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We were the 14th ranked defence for goals conceded last season, and that was with one of the best keepers in the division.

I don't see how downgrading Sepp for Storey will catapult us up 8 places in that regard
 
rem said:
Central League matches and EFL loans weren’t really available when Dolan moved on. The Central League is good experience now for the youths and, if James Beet is successful, there will be some EFL loans too.
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The central league is a huge improvement but there aren’t that many games throughout the season.
 
rem said:
That would be an excellent window if we can move on Maguire and Earl as well as the 3 listed
The 7/8 recruits will have to be quality though.
To me the defence looks the weakest link.
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The truth is , whether you believe Peter Ridsdales '1 in3' or the '40%' figure I heard from outside the club, the majority of new signings don't tend to be the resounding successes they all appear to be when they appear in their new shirt holding the scarf above their head. Think Olusunde, Harrop etc. Its the same at every club and every level. Its why we do need a core of our own players proven at this level to build on.

If 4 of the 8 new recruits I listed ended up being first team regulars that would be a resounding success.
 
northender2 said:
didn't we supposedly turn down an approach form Cardiff for Maguire in January? Wonder if they're still interested, might not be as hard as people are suggesting to get rid of him when/if we bring in another striker
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Someone will always take a punt on a striker who has done it before. Cardiff could well come back - if not there will be league 1 options.
 
chorleythehord said:
The truth is , whether you believe Peter Ridsdales '1 in3' or the '40%' figure I heard from outside the club, the majority of new signings don't tend to be the resounding successes they all appear to be when they appear in their new shirt holding the scarf above their head. Think Olusunde, Harrop etc. Its the same at every club and every level. Its why we do need a core of our own players proven at this level to build on.

If 4 of the 8 new recruits I listed ended up being first team regulars that would be a resounding success.
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The problem with Ridsdale's recent parade of absolute duffers is, they didn't even look remotely like they'd ever be a success from the moment the ink dried on their contracts.
 
pneveg said:
Whiteman and McCann dominated the midfield on Saturday
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Izzy Brown dominated the treatment room all season, before being told to leave the club last week.

Jamie Thomas has dominated the Halifax bench for 2 months.

Matthew Olosunde just got fucking transfer-listed.

Connor Wickham was creaking around for MK Dons last night.
 
As Ryan Lowe has already said the background work will be done by him and the scouting team and at the point were a player is favoured then it’s passed to Riddler to try and complete the deal. He should have no part at all in player selection.
 
Thracia said:
Izzy Brown dominated the treatment room all season, before being told to leave the club last week.

Jamie Thomas has dominated the Halifax bench for 2 months.

Matthew Olosunde just got fucking transfer-listed.

Connor Wickham was creaking around for MK Dons last night.
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Don't forget the mercurial Murphy, who we were seemingly paying 15k or more a week simply to practice his Jenga skills with Harrop and co.

Cutting Izzy and Murphy early for attitude issues demonstrates how lazy and incomprehensibly awful last summer's recruitment drive was.
 
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