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Nobber said:
Where did I join in the personal stuff? It's of no surprise to anyone that I think WIBG is a prick. So what, tough shit on him. On that note do you deem it ok for Mossy to call me a bigot, a racist, a bully, a cock all today when I havent said anything? Are you saying that I shouldn't respond to that blatant goading?
Look Bill you know the score, WIBG has even come out today with comments like 'job done' and 'posters have asked me how I can get rid of the mods', it's provocation. Perhaps if the Pillocks just stopped with the instigation then people won't respond. Not rocket science is it.
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You joined in the bullying form the sides Nob, like a fucking coward. You seem to think other people can't see it, but you're wrong.

At least Raf had the balls to do it out in the open.

Not rocket science is it?
 
Nobber said:
Where did I join in the personal stuff? It's of no surprise to anyone that I think WIBG is a prick. So what, tough shit on him. On that note do you deem it ok for Mossy to call me a bigot, a racist, a bully, a cock all today when I havent said anything? Are you saying that I shouldn't respond to that blatant goading?
Look Bill you know the score, WIBG has even come out today with comments like 'job done' and 'posters have asked me how I can get rid of the mods', it's provocation. Perhaps if the Pillocks just stopped with the instigation then people won't respond. Not rocket science is it.
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dear oh dear, how can you still be classed as impartial after this, perhaps it's time to stand down Nob, try reading and understanding what you posted and perhaps just perhaps reflect a wee bit, your own choice of words cannot ever be described as sensitive. You and raef did get caught up in this unsavory anti wibg witch hunt and as mods you do have a sense of reason and impartiality to exercise as well as enjoying this place, perhaps modding is not your forte if wibg so easily upsets you!!!!
 
I can't see Mossys post above but if it is about me let me guess,

Racist
Coward
Bully

How did I do?
 
billymac said:
dear oh dear, how can you still be classed as impartial after this, perhaps it's time to stand down Nob, try reading and understanding what you posted and perhaps just perhaps reflect a wee bit, your own choice of words cannot ever be described as sensitive. You and raef did get caught up in this unsavory anti wibg witch hunt and as mods you do have a sense of reason and impartiality to exercise as well as enjoying this place, perhaps modding is not your forte if wibg so easily upsets you!!!!
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jesus Christ Bill, I always had you down as reasonable but seen as you've nailed your cards to the bedpost.... Try getting your tongue out of the back of WIBGs and Mossys trousers and you might see that the provocation has gone on for months. Anything said by myself has been a response. Tough shit if the WUMs can't hack it.
 
billymac said:
dear oh dear, how can you still be classed as impartial after this, perhaps it's time to stand down Nob, try reading and understanding what you posted and perhaps just perhaps reflect a wee bit, your own choice of words cannot ever be described as sensitive. You and raef did get caught up in this unsavory anti wibg witch hunt and as mods you do have a sense of reason and impartiality to exercise as well as enjoying this place, perhaps modding is not your forte if wibg so easily upsets you!!!!
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In his mind he did nothing wrong, if he didn't quote him he can't be blamed for abusing him according to his sidekick.

The bloke hides behind Raf and snipes from the side.

I'm embarrassed for the tit.
 
Nobber said:
jesus Christ Bill, I always had you down as reasonable but seen as you've nailed your cards to the bedpost.... Try getting your tongue out of the back of WIBGs and Mossys trousers and you might see that the provocation has gone on for months. Anything said by myself has been a response. Tough shit if the WUMs can't hack it.
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One minuet you didn't say anything and now you did but it was because of provocation.

You couldn't lie straight in bed cha.
 
Nobber said:
jesus Christ Bill, I always had you down as reasonable but seen as you've nailed your cards to the bedpost.... Try getting your tongue out of the back of WIBGs and Mossys trousers and you might see that the provocation has gone on for months. Anything said by myself has been a response. Tough shit if the WUMs can't hack it.
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gosh yet again you surprise me Nobber, surely to (whichever god you worship) rising above some members is all that is needed, this tit for tat stuff is from yesteryear and belongs in a kids playground, when have you ever seen me hang out of WIBG's arse????? this just proves that you have lost the plot here with your if the wum's can't hack it remark with you being one of the biggest wum's in here!!!!!
 
Right, after letting things settle I feel it's time to have my say on things.

I've been a member of this forum for over 10 years now and of course, like most members, I've posted and said things I regret and I've received and accepted the necessary 'punishments' and the abuse thrown my way as a result. However, I think things have turned a little sour in my direction recently and people seem to think it's perfectly acceptable to throw some pretty vile and personal abuse my way just because they happen to get wound up by what I post and hide behind the old, 'the WUM doesn't like it when the shoe is on the other foot' excuse which is quite frankly pathetic.

Me and Raefil have had our well documented run-ins over the years but I genuinely thought we had an 'understanding' and whilst we would often fallout we never sunk to the depths of 5/6 years ago, hence why I was surprised at his outburst last night. I would even go as far as saying that if you'd have asked me last night about the current team of Moderators he would be the only one I'd have voted for, although that is something I'd obviously think twice about now.

Now for Nobber - I've genuinely no idea where to start with this bloke so I'm going to try and keep it as simple and straightforward as possible. This forum isn't good for him and I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that. Like I said, I'm going to try and keep it to a minimum as I've no doubt he'll start to level accusations at me (even though he has me on ignore), but maybe time away will do him some good. But then again maybe the fact he now has me and Mossy on ignore he possibly won't fly into anymore rages and attack and bully posters and become a more respectable poster. Only Nobber can answer that.

So, that's it from me really, I hope the forum can move on, and once certain Moderators are removed in the next elections we can maybe as a collective be able to turn the forum around and rid it of the personal abuse and bullying that seems so acceptable to the current set of moderators.
 
billymac said:
gosh yet again you surprise me Nobber, surely to (whichever god you worship) rising above some members is all that is needed, this tit for tat stuff is from yesteryear and belongs in a kids playground, when have you ever seen me hang out of WIBG's arse????? this just proves that you have lost the plot here with your if the wum's can't hack it remark with you being one of the biggest wum's in here!!!!!
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Oh sorry mate, all I have seen on this thread from you is bollocks, I must have misread..... I'll read back......
 
No Bill, no plot lost, WIBG and Mossy love in definately from yourself.
 
billymac said:
who gives a ff about what you do, you came up with the old BDE shit to try and impress, and yes I am Ron as your cohunas must be well decantered!!!!
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Billy seriously for the 500th time you are the one bringing up my profession in an argument if you don't care about it why bring it up you're looking more and more like a WUM everyday.

I never use my job to try and impress it was only brought up on the forum by Bowlandwhites because I wouldn't agree with him, a cowards tactic and one Billy that you keep employing.

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Ever thought of running for mod Ron 😉
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I have considered it, FYI I will be voting for you in the re-election do I have to become a patron to do that?

As far as I am concerned with this whole argument/debate that has been going on WIBG and Mossy wanted a reaction and got one but guess what, they don't like it.

I wonder what would happen if you were to start a thread on the way Mossy conducts himself on here, there would be uproar on his behalf, but here's the kicker only he would be kicking up a fuss because I don't think anyone gives a fuck about him and his wind up antics.
 
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Ron Burgundy said:
Billy seriously for the 500th time you are the one bringing up my profession in an argument if you don't care about it why bring it up you're looking more and more like a WUM everyday.

I never use my job to try and impress it was only brought up on the forum by Bowlandwhites because I wouldn't agree with him, a cowards tactic and one Billy that you keep employing.



I have considered it, FYI I will be voting for you in the re-election do I have to become a patron to do that?

As far as I am concerned with this whole argument/debate that has been going on WIBG and Mossy wanted a reaction and got one but guess what, they don't like it.

I wonder what would happen if you were to start a thread on the way Mossy conducts himself on here, there would be uproar on his behalf, but here's the kicker only he would be kicking up a fuss because I don't think anyone gives a fuck about him and his wind up antics.
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I won't be standing next time mate, it's not worth it with the idiots going out of their way to cause trouble. Apparently as a mod I am supposed to sit here quiet whilst getting slated in every single thread. Look back at this thread and the off topic thread from last night/today and see how many times Mossy has called me a bigot, liar, bully, coward, blah blah blah. Me, it's my fault if I reply.

As for the other pillock, he has mocked my mental illness several times and once he gets a slap on the wrist I'm supposed to 'move on', 'don't respond', 'don't reply'.

A couple of on line bullies that accuse others in a desperate attempt to get a reaction.
 
billymac said:
you are a bit like Westley Nob, you cannot deal with anyone who is better than you, more balanced and has more ability than attitude!!!!
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Are you talking about Mossy or WIBG in that statement, slurp slurp.
 
Nobber said:
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I won't be standing next time mate, it's not worth it with the idiots going out of their way to cause trouble. Apparently as a mod I am supposed to sit here quiet whilst getting slated in every single thread. Look back at this thread and the off topic thread from last night/today and see how many times Mossy has called me a bigot, liar, bully, coward, blah blah blah. Me, it's my fault if I reply.

As for the other pillock, he has mocked my mental illness several times and once he gets a slap on the wrist I'm supposed to 'move on', 'don't respond', 'don't reply'.

A couple of online bullies that accuse others in a desperate attempt to get a reaction.
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Don't think that guy can get any lower in my estimations now, thats probably the lowest of the low.

I have been watching this thread closely and decided to get involved after a bit, the tactics employed by "those" two are simply childish and show a lack of morale character and maturity.

I have taken an interest in this forum the past 12 months and have been posting regularly because I enjoyed it but now can see why many people have signed off from here because you are subjected to attacks because you voice your opinion.

The past few weeks the threads I have commented on have always tailed off because

1. WIBG engages in his pathetic tactic of calling himself the Voice of PNE Online and then calling me an idiot plus keeping his own personal score board.

2. Mossy following me around slating me because I said I saw an Everton Youth Team player play.

3. Bullymac throwing out insults about me and my working life.

The thing is though Nobber don't let them win, people like them will always be found out and for me it comes down to their own personal issues that they take out on people on here, I pity them.
 
There are four posters here who should be looking at what they have done over the past months in my opinion.

I think that some of the treatment of Nobber has been shocking, but in turn Nobber did go beyond reasonable reaction. All parties were rightly dealt with. Then things have kept going, so all parties in that have to share the blame.

Now we have moderators openly stating they have issues with posters that were recently infracted.

My personal opinion (not as a moderator) is that it is completely unacceptable for moderators to continually go after posters or reveal that they have issues with another individual. I think that sort of thing crosses a line and should be dealt with.

As a moderator mine is one voice in a rightly democratic system, and this post is in line with what I have said on the issue.
 
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