Suicide & cries for help

Suicide & cries for help

And breathe
To walk in another’s shoes is probably the only way we can ever truly understand matters of others minds.
But we can’t do that, so maybe the nearest thing we can offer is to walk along side them, supporting, guiding, and most importantly listening.
I can’t imagine for one moment just how hard it must be to take one’s own life and the state of mind to do so, like many I have my own challenges but through support, talking and listening the journey ahead can often have clouds lifted where it seemed darker days were ahead.
To quote the amazing Robin Williams “people don’t fake depression, they fake being ok, remember that. Be kind”
 
Lord Edgington said:
And breathe
To walk in another’s shoes is probably the only way we can ever truly understand matters of others minds.
But we can’t do that, so maybe the nearest thing we can offer is to walk along side them, supporting, guiding, and most importantly listening.
I can’t imagine for one moment just how hard it must be to take one’s own life and the state of mind to do so, like many I have my own challenges but through support, talking and listening the journey ahead can often have clouds lifted where it seemed darker days were ahead.
To quote the amazing Robin Williams “people don’t fake depression, they fake being ok, remember that. Be kind”
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Replace depression for anxiety and that's exactly what my daughter used to do, she was good at it too. The result was nobody realised anything was wrong, and that includes Mrs LiS and me.

She calls it masking which is a trait of autism, girls especially.
 
LostinSpace said:
Replace depression for anxiety and that's exactly what my daughter used to do, she was good at it too. The result was nobody realised anything was wrong, and that includes Mrs LiS and me.

She calls it masking which is a trait of autism, girls especially.
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Absolutely
And no doubt there are many other conditions and factors
Hopefully my point remains true though, listening and caring are so fundamental.
We don’t even need to understand, the fact that we care can sometimes be just enough
 
Lord Edgington said:
Absolutely
And no doubt there are many other conditions and factors
Hopefully my point remains true though, listening and caring are so fundamental.
We don’t even need to understand, the fact that we care can sometimes be just enough
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Care is often all we can do.

I often read this section and want to help but quickly realise I have so little to give 🙁
 
raefil said:
Care is often all we can do.

I often read this section and want to help but quickly realise I have so little to give 🙁
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But sometimes without even knowing it a kind word, a smile, a gesture of good will such as pay it on, can be all it takes to change someone’s day.
Of course longer term takes processional help
But imagine if we were all just simply kind
 
LostinSpace said:
No!

People who want to commit suicide and those desperate for help don't think logically. It's absolutely not cold and calculated as you are suggesting.

FWIW, my daughter suffers from serious mentall health issues.
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As does my eldest son, LIS. He lives in a town 60 miles away, I've been known to have to leave work to drive over there, gut-wrenchingly sick to the stomach, searching streets and parks in a town I have no knowledge of, trying to find him when he has been reported missing. It's absolutely horrific for him to have to deal with and for us to deal with the fall out of it, and I must admit to being flippant about mental health issues myself at times before i had to gain a better understanding of it. These days my stomach churns every time my phone starts buzzing.
 
I've known a few who opted out. It leaves me thinking that I must've missed something, hints or a sign. Anything. But how can you ever really know?
One I'd known my whole life, grew up together, same street, just doors away, a year apart. We'd fallen out, hadn't really spoken in a while. Then I get a call, he's gone.
Should've fixed it, should've been there when he felt there was no way out.
He made his choice, I have to accept that and, maybe he still would've. But maybe not.
I'll carry that for the rest of my days. Don't leave things undone.
 
unconvinced said:
I've known a few who opted out. It leaves me thinking that I must've missed something, hints or a sign. Anything. But how can you ever really know?
One I'd known my whole life, grew up together, same street, just doors away, a year apart. We'd fallen out, hadn't really spoken in a while. Then I get a call, he's gone.
Should've fixed it, should've been there when he felt there was no way out.
He made his choice, I have to accept that and, maybe he still would've. But maybe not.
I'll carry that for the rest of my days. Don't leave things undone.
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A lot of the time no-one will know. It's not too hard to fake being functional and engaged when moments require. And for those who live quite a solitary life (outside of work) it's even less identifiable.
 
Far too much of this has happened to people I know or friends of friends. It is in my opinion, the number one killer, it may not statistically be that over cancer or heart disease, but with those you can at least rest assured of natural causes, and with cancer, you can make peace with it, have time to deal with the expected loss. Suicide is the absolute worst.

I've had my own issues in the recent past, but I've learnt to train my brain to tell itself that suicide is the absolute worst choice possible. Imagine the suffering impacted on everyone else, especially the wife and kids, should that happen. Therefore, it ranks last, on a list of resolutions to any issue.

Unfortunately, many who take their own life, don't have this mentality, their mental health has deteriorated so much that they legitimately think suicide is the only option left. It must be impossible to imagine that headspace for anybody who has not been in it.

Thinking now of all the people I've known who have died as a result of losing their battle with mental health:

Girl from 6th Form, died at 19 after finding out she was pregnant
Second cousin, 15, had moved to Atlanta at 13 with parents, found hanged in wardrobe by his dad
Best mates stepdad, hanged himself in Leyland
Best mates mother, hanged herself three weeks later in the same place in Leyland
Friend of wife, champion pole fitness dancer, during COVID lockdown
Boss's brother-in-law, died last December, father of three, planned it out methodically for 6 months
Vendor manager at work, took his own life in July, two days after I saw him and he seemed "fine"

I think society as a whole needs to look at what is causing this is to happen with more regularity, especially in middle-aged men. I have my personal opinions on some causes of it, but would be interested to see whether that is just me.
 
beagleman said:
Ffs.....this is getting to be sheer incompetence and almost a devil may care attitude towards shutting off the m6 around here..causes untold misery for thousands on a regular basis
Ridiculous state of affairs....be late for work now
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At least you would get there.

noelpne said:
It must be a 'recognised' way of getting a short cut to much-needed medical and secure help & assistance. Perhaps the authorities shouldn't publicise these types of 'Cry for help' so much (?)
I only hope the person gets the help they need, but when officially 'at low risk' and hopefully now with employment - would they get an 'attachment of earnings'....the bill for all the delays & public services involvement will be in the tens of thousands.
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Short cut to getting help. You for fucking real? I hope you never need that help. There is no short cut, Most people that get to this stage are already getting help. But whilst they get help they get constant bashing in the media, Even today the Labour Government are blaming sick and disabled for the Countries problems instead of trying to address the fucking cause.

Most people that get to this stage only want help one way and thats out.

When you get to this stage, you don't care about costs to others, your seeing the world better off without you. Everytime I read white like yours, when I see the sick and disabled blamed for the countries problems, when we didn't ask to be this way, to have had to deal with what life has thrown at us, I think is this the day the world can do without me. So keep this sort of shite in your head, because god for bid you ever need help oneday, and you will see just how hard it is, even with help. There is no light at the end of the tunnel just a race between mind and body to the end.
 
FootballcrazyP_ said:
At least you would get there.


Short cut to getting help. You for fucking real? I hope you never need that help. There is no short cut, Most people that get to this stage are already getting help. But whilst they get help they get constant bashing in the media, Even today the Labour Government are blaming sick and disabled for the Countries problems instead of trying to address the fucking cause.

Most people that get to this stage only want help one way and thats out.

When you get to this stage, you don't care about costs to others, your seeing the world better off without you. Everytime I read white like yours, when I see the sick and disabled blamed for the countries problems, when we didn't ask to be this way, to have had to deal with what life has thrown at us, I think is this the day the world can do without me. So keep this sort of shite in your head, because god for bid you ever need help oneday, and you will see just how hard it is, even with help. There is no light at the end of the tunnel just a race between mind and body to the end.
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I can't read it by opening the link, but I could read it by enlarging the text as shown.
 
Whoa....just hold on a second....when i was made aware that the motorway was closed again it said nothing about someone sat on a bridge....i assumed it was yet another crash etc
 
I bet when the guy/girl seen that cars had stopped coming and then started getting approached, a little bit of faith in humanity would've been restored.. hope the buggers alright and is able to continue the wonderful, existential struggle that is life.
 
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