The Milly Thread

[norfolk white]

It could be a case of mishearing or bad translation because neither player is english. Unless it can be 100% proven then nothing is going to happen.

I hope that is the case and the FA don’t just by ‘say so’

 

[keasden]

I’m not sure how it can be proven one way or the other without lip readers being involved, thus, I don’t see how the player can or will be banned. I think Hannibal’s reaction is very telling, but you can’t prove what is essentially ‘his word v mine’.

I hope your right

 

[Bobbage]

Although I couldn't see what Milutin actually said, it appeared to me that Hannibal was saying he'd been called a "puto" which is a Spanish slur against weak or gay men.

 

[Ireland White]

It looked to me by the video on X that he said F you and F your mother

 

[keasden]

Sure the FA will be calling you up given you’re so confident what happened when nobody else is

You’ve chosen to ignore the crucial last two words of my post. If so.

 

[Durutti]

As I said, subject to an FA investigation. I presume they will use the civil burden of proof which is the balance of probabilities, so in other words is it more likely than not that Osmajjc said whatever it is Hannibal is accusing him of. Millys response to the inevitable charge will be crucial.

They can't do that. Literally opening themselves up to a lawsuit by PNE. In court only guilt needs to be proven.

Scott Parker and Hannibal are both bell ends and could well have tried to stitch him up. A Tunisian national listening to a Montenegren with poor English can be a total misunderstanding waiting to happen. There's loads of possibilities.

There is no balance of probability.

 

[Bring_Back_Nuge]

Although I couldn't see what Milutin actually said, it appeared to me that Hannibal was saying he'd been called a "puto" which is a Spanish slur against weak or gay men.

It just means bitch. Spanish people say it all the time, it has nothing to do with being gay. Is Hannibal gay?

 

[Bobbage]

It just means bitch. Spanish people say it all the time, it has nothing to do with being gay. Is Hannibal gay?

I don't care.

puto | Translations | Dictionary.com

Content warning: This article deals with extremely offensive language and sensitive topics. You don’t want to just go around saying this. Puto is the masculine form of the multi-functional Spanish puta, meaning “prostitute.” It’s used as a slur against people who are gay and an insult to anyone...

www.dictionary.com

 

[keasden]

They can't do that. Literally opening themselves up to a lawsuit by PNE. In court only guilt needs to be proven.

Scott Parker and Hannibal are both bell ends and could well have tried to stitch him up. A Tunisian national listening to a Montenegren with poor English can be a total misunderstanding waiting to happen. There's loads of possibilities.

There is no balance of probability.

I work in a field of misconduct in the workplace, and people can and do get dismissed from their jobs on the balance of probability. It is a far lesser burden of proof than the guilty standard of beyond all reasonable doubt. I’m not sure what Milly said but I am sure it will be decided on the balance of probabilities.

I’m not saying at all that they will find him guilty, just commenting on what I suspect will happen now in terms of an investigation.

 

[PNE04]

It’s not often a game is completely halted for something someone said. Another controversy for Osmajic. He is a complete bellend, regardless of whether he said something offensive enough for a ban or not.

 

[SF]

Yeah, puto isn't bannable

 

[HunterLionheart]

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puto | Translations | Dictionary.com

Content warning: This article deals with extremely offensive language and sensitive topics. You don’t want to just go around saying this. Puto is the masculine form of the multi-functional Spanish puta, meaning “prostitute.” It’s used as a slur against people who are gay and an insult to anyone...

www.dictionary.com

If it was that, he can probably get away with it.

 

[Bobbage]

If it was that, he can probably get away with it.

I think we can safely rule out that Summer move to Burnley now anyway...

 

[Naughton's moustache]

Yeah, puto isn't bannable

I called him a long haired fucker.
I think that's worse!

 

[Bring_Back_Nuge]

If it's to do with sexuality rather than race then it's laughable. Why is Hannibal offended for being called gay if he's not?

 

[ruscoe]

Although I couldn't see what Milutin actually said, it appeared to me that Hannibal was saying he'd been called a "puto" which is a Spanish slur against weak or gay men.

christ allmighty

 

[Yoowell]

I work in a field of misconduct in the workplace, and people can and do get dismissed from their jobs on the balance of probability. It is a far lesser burden of proof than the guilty standard of beyond all reasonable doubt. I’m not sure what Milly said but I am sure it will be decided on the balance of probabilities.

I’m not saying at all that they will find him guilty, just commenting on what I suspect will happen now in terms of an investigation.

I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of someone in football being disciplined for something that was on the balance of probabilities?

 

[wld]

I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of someone in football being disciplined for something that was on the balance of probabilities?

They haven’t. If he’s to be found guilty of something, he’ll have to admit it or there’ll have to be some sort of proof. And by proof, I don’t mean the opposition player saying he said it.

 

[jld74]

he's said something offensive
Quickly becoming very unlikeable.
shame cos i like him a lot.

 

[keasden]

There will obviously be an investigation but if no one else heard what was said you can’t take disciplinary action on the the ‘balance of probabilities’.

Yoowell, you can and that is precisely the burden of proof used in cases outside of the criminal courts. I work in the misconduct arena.