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Valuation

Town_ender said:
The club didn't say who had done the valuation, but it's almost certainly been done as part of the annual accounts; as the player values would normally be amortised as part of the accounting procedure.
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The players arent stated at fair value in the accounts, at least not in last year’s. they use the initial cost, transfer fees plus signing on fees and other acquisition costs, and write them off over the term of the contract. Maybe they’re changing policy this year and showing them at current value.
The player valuations are not the same as the value of the club. They are merely estimated sale values for each player. In reality no club is going to sell its entire playing staff.
 
sf said:
Bolton's squad is worth fuck all to be fair bar Vela and Ameobi.

They have about 4 senior players on their books under the age of 28.
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That Olkowski they signed on a free in Summer has been absolutely class for them tbf, he's worth a few million now I'd imagine.
 
BenPearsonIsGod said:
That Olkowski they signed on a free in Summer has been absolutely class for them tbf, he's worth a few million now I'd imagine.
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Yeah, looks decent, thought he was quite young but he's 28 himself.

Been called up to the Poland squad, his bird/ wife is also amazing.
 
GloucesterPete said:
£77 million is complete rubbish.

What is really being said is: "I'll put such a ridiculous figure on any potential buy out to guarantee no-one in their right mind will be interested".
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We are living in a very different world than we were before the last Prem TV deal was signed. Prices have gone completely stupid, squad players who act as cover and get very little game time in the prem are going for @£10m, Jordan Hugill being one example. So if you look at what Hugill went for and compare him to our current squad I think that £77M wouldn't be too far wide of the mark.
 
GloucesterPete said:
£77 million is complete rubbish.

What is really being said is: "I'll put such a ridiculous figure on any potential buy out to guarantee no-one in their right mind will be interested".
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Agree. Wigan have been sold for 22 milion so how the fuck are we worth 3 times more? It bollox
 
Mickypne said:
Agree. Wigan have been sold for 22 milion so how the fuck are we worth 3 times more? It bollox
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Can people please just get this right. The club isn’t valued at 77 million. If anyone said that that would be absurd. I thought it was made perfectly clear that the squad was valued at 77 million not the club. A huge difference. I mean 15 million was rejected for Pearson so he is probably valued at 20 million and that is just one player. So I think our squad should be valued at 77 million at least.
 
I don't really understand how valuations can be put on players in terms of the value of a football club.

I always remember at the AGM's we used to be told that all players values had to be linked to depreciation of contracts.

When taking in the value of a football club you have account for lots of different variables.

Wolves went for £45 million and you can't tell me that was all linked to "independent valuations" of players. It would appear that there is a true valuation of Preston North End and then the valution which means Mr Hemmings recovers his soft loans.

There is no way someone will pay the current valuation of the club. The people that matter don't really show any interest in proactively attracting outside investment, recently telling a supporter that "maybe you should find someone."

I believe Mr. Hemmings will keep hold of the football club for a couple more years or until he retires from all his other business ventures..... until then we will continue to standstill.
 
White123 said:
Can people please just get this right. The club isn’t valued at 77 million. If anyone said that that would be absurd. I thought it was made perfectly clear that the squad was valued at 77 million not the club. A huge difference. I mean 15 million was rejected for Pearson so he is probably valued at 20 million and that is just one player. So I think our squad should be valued at 77 million at least.
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It’s not as simple as saying player x is worth £5 million on the transfer market, player y is worth £2 million and so on. The value of their contracts, the position played, number of international appearances, disciplinary record, historic transfer fees, team dependency, age and other factors come into the figure. There are organisations that specialise in the calculations, so there is no reason to doubt the validity of the figure given.

Price and value are not the same thing. The valuation tool might value a player at £5 million but the price paid might be more or less depending on market forces at the time. Hugill is possibly a good illustration, the valuation companies might have valued him at £5 million based in all his stats but because West Ham desperately wanted him the price they were willing to pay was much greater than his official valuation.
 
I don't trust a lot of the player valuations banded around but we did get £10m for Hugill...probably our most valuable players are Pearson Robinson and Browne followed by some of the other players coming through such as Earl / Storey / Ben Davies but £77m seems a bit inflated
 
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By Tor said:
I don't trust a lot of the player valuations banded around but we did get £10m for Hugill...probably our most valuable players are Pearson Robinson and Browne followed by some of the other players coming through such as Earl / Storey / Ben Davies but £77m seems a bit inflated
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It was more likely a PR stunt (pardon the pun!) you will have noticed there was no mention of who did the valuation.
 
pnenycx said:
Is this true? Surprised on two counts. That someone offered that much and that we rejected it.
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I think Stoke offered £12 million late in the transfer window. As it was too late for us to replace Pearson, we said £20 million or no deal.
 
Mickypne said:
Agree. Wigan have been sold for 22 milion so how the fuck are we worth 3 times more? It bollox
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The valuation of the club and squad may not necessarily tally. In addition to the assets of the club (ground, training ground and players etc), the club also have ongoing liabilities that a buyer will become responsible for, the largest of these would be player salaries; so these would be factored into the valuation of the club as a whole.
 
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It can’t be a coincidence that the £77 m ‘valuation’ is just above what TH has put into the club. To get anywhere near that though is cloud cuckoo land as Wigan’s sale has shown at £22 m (rumoured). Even then there won’t be many people who’ll want to put £22m or so in up front and then say at least £5m a year for long shot odds of a big Premier League pay out, unless it’s an emotional investment but there’s no sign of a Preston version of Jack Walker or Derby’s Candy Crush Chairman. Looks to me like TH will be at the helm for a little longer yet and I’d say be careful for what you wish for as he’s kept us afloat and competitive.
 
If you want to buy the club you're looking at £77 million, or offers in the region thereof.
So Sammy Choo comes in and says:
"£40,000,000."
Ridsdale answers:
"£65,000,000."
"£50,000,000" says Choo.
"£60,000,000." says Ridsdale.
"£58,000,000?" asks Choo.
"Done!" Says Ridsdale (including 1% broker's fee)
 
norky84 said:
I think Stoke offered £12 million late in the transfer window. As it was too late for us to replace Pearson, we said £20 million or no deal.
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Like we would have replaced him anyway. Most likely Ledson would have been expected to step straight up.
 
tcinders;n3359094 said:
It was more likely a PR stunt (pardon the pun!) you will have noticed there was no mention of who did the valuation.
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I thought he said the auditors had carried out the valuation
 
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