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Wing backs.

Walton

Walton

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Is anyone else sick and fed up of the words “wing back”.

Is the manager a one trick pony.

If they are so hard to come by, should we be playing more to the strengths that is in the squad, presuming we have said strengths.

FFS Lowe, either get some of your precious wing backs or change the fucking formation, oh and ps.. get McCann in the team for a little run so we can be sure he is the guy who should be in the team instead of your man Browne. Your truly, Fed Up of Preston.
 
While it’s obviously important in RLs preferred system I’m increasingly convinced the issue is in midfield. If they play well then we play well generally, but they seem to have more off days than good days.
 
We have sorted the left side of the pitch but badly restricted down the right as Potts (despite his great work rate) is never a wing back in a million years.

The number of times we picked the ball up in midfield and there was no option in that final third on the right was obvious.

Potts can't beat a man and simply won't create anything.

Browne is not a wing back either and whilst he did better when moved there was only because he was very poor in CM yesterday.

We need to go all out and sign someone who can play a more attacking role in that system.

We had decent patterns of play yesterday in the first half and ultimately we should have been a couple of goals up at half time.

Some of the reactions have been slightly ott in my view.

Add a RWB and a Archer, or Robinson and we would have won.

It needs addressing.
 
Walton said:
Is anyone else sick and fed up of the words “wing back”.

Is the manager a one trick pony.

If they are so hard to come by, should we be playing more to the strengths that is in the squad, presuming we have said strengths.

FFS Lowe, either get some of your precious wing backs or change the fucking formation, oh and ps.. get McCann in the team for a little run so we can be sure he is the guy who should be in the team instead of your man Browne. Your truly, Fed Up of Preston.
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But we can't play 4-4-2 because we don't have any right full backs either...?
 
Face it, Lowe could have won that by playing Browne in place of Potts, and McCann in the middle. Lowe will not win favour by reverting to what doesn’t work (DJ at left worked last year too). A fans forum will see Lowe in trouble with the sages of PNE if this continues
 
This is the key to the ‘wing back’ formation.
We need to play 3-5-2 for it to work as it should….yesterday as with many of our games it was more like 5-3-2.
I know it won’t happen but with the players we currently have would they not be more suited to a 4-3-1-2?
 
Yoowell said:
This is the key to the ‘wing back’ formation.
We need to play 3-5-2 for it to work as it should….yesterday as with many of our games it was more like 5-3-2.
I know it won’t happen but with the players we currently have would they not be more suited to a 4-3-1-2?
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We’ve got nobody that can play RB, you’d be shunting Hughes into a poorer position, and be running a back two of Lindsay and Storey which would be suicidal if you ever want your full backs to provide attacking width (which they’re unlikely to do because of who we’ve got to play there)

On top of that, that formation hardly ever works because your team just gets pulled apart by wingers and wing backs stretching your midfield and leaving giant gaps to play through

Think Luton are the only team to play it successfully. There are way more teams to play 352 for it to be shown as effective with the right personnel. Just watch Boro yesterday
 
It is strange how we don’t seem to play any other formations and have come up short in the window so far. To be told we need to get rid of bodies before we get any further business in is not what the fans wanted to hear. Either we get those players in very soon or start work on a formation that fits our squad.
 
If you have a manager who plays a certain way you support him by bringing in players who can actually fit the system.

Playing Potts as a RWB isn't going to get us anywhere.

We have made some decent signing IMHO but if we go through another window and not sign a RWB then it's all for nothing.

This isn't helped now by the fact Ched is out for 3 games and looks off the pace so puts even more emphasis on finding room in the budget for a Robinson or Archer *if available.

We are not as far away as some think but only if we address the obvious.
 
TheFulwoodEnd said:
If you have a manager who plays a certain way you support him by bringing in players who can actually fit the system.

Playing Potts as a RWB isn't going to get us anywhere.

We have made some decent signing IMHO but if we go through another window and not sign a RWB then it's all for nothing.

This isn't helped now by the fact Ched is out for 3 games and looks off the pace so puts even more emphasis on finding room in the budget for a Robinson or Archer *if available.

We are not as far away as some think but only if we address the obvious.
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Even if Archer isn’t available, I’d like to see us get Robbo in and then a late move for a promising young loanee. Just to add a bit more to our strike force. Evans will have his uses but as it stands he’ll be on every game even if he’s not needed
 
jamesOB said:
Even if Archer isn’t available, I’d like to see us get Robbo in and then a late move for a promising young loanee. Just to add a bit more to our strike force. Evans will have his uses but as it stands he’ll be on every game even if he’s not needed
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Pretty certain the Archer thing has gone now after his appearance for Villa but we desperately need Robbo and a RWB in as soon as possible, plus a younger hungrier replacement in the squad for Evans and/or Maguire with one (or both) leaving. Not a guaranteed starter or "Championship ready" but a raw Jason Harris type bundle of energy for the bench who has the legs to do what Ched thought his body was capable of doing yesterday.
 
jamesOB said:
We’ve got nobody that can play RB, you’d be shunting Hughes into a poorer position, and be running a back two of Lindsay and Storey which would be suicidal if you ever want your full backs to provide attacking width (which they’re unlikely to do because of who we’ve got to play there)

On top of that, that formation hardly ever works because your team just gets pulled apart by wingers and wing backs stretching your midfield and leaving giant gaps to play through

Think Luton are the only team to play it successfully. There are way more teams to play 352 for it to be shown as effective with the right personnel. Just watch Boro yesterday
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Wilder is the master of 3-5-2 as he showed with his promotion winning Sheff Utd team but are we not some way off having the players to play it effectively?
With regards to the other formation you’ve suggested players who wouldn’t be my first choice in the system…I would go

Woodman
Browne Diaby Bauer Fernandez
McCann Whiteman Brady
DJ
Riis Parrot
 
Yoowell said:
Wilder is the master of 3-5-2 as he showed with his promotion winning Sheff Utd team but are we not some way off having the players to play it effectively?
With regards to the other formation you’ve suggested players who wouldn’t be my first choice in the system…I would go

Woodman
Browne Diaby Bauer Fernandez
McCann Whiteman Brady
DJ
Riis Parrot
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I know why you’re suggesting it, but that team gets slaughtered. Bauer and Diaby aren’t even getting in the current side and there will be a reason for that so that’s never going to happen, neither of those two full backs are particularly good defensively and any competent opposition would overload the pair of them, dragging McCann and Brady out wide and leaving Whiteman up against 3 midfielders alone. Just won’t work
 
Yoowell said:
Wilder is the master of 3-5-2 as he showed with his promotion winning Sheff Utd team but are we not some way off having the players to play it effectively?
With regards to the other formation you’ve suggested players who wouldn’t be my first choice in the system…I would go

Woodman
Browne Diaby Bauer Fernandez
McCann Whiteman Brady
DJ
Riis Parrot
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If it means getting McCann back in the team I would be happy with this. RL on the other hand..
 
Yoowell said:
This is the key to the ‘wing back’ formation.
We need to play 3-5-2 for it to work as it should….yesterday as with many of our games it was more like 5-3-2.
I know it won’t happen but with the players we currently have would they not be more suited to a 4-3-1-2?
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Yesterday, on the left hand side we didn't play as deep as we normally do but granted, Potts was in his usual right back role.

If we can get the left hand side working then we can probably cope with Potts on the right but I'd still like us to have another option out there. Yesterday as soon as Potts started to do his usual trick of miss controlling the ball for it to go out for a throw in then we had no chance of winning.

I can see what Lowe is trying to do with the system but I don't think we'll ever see a run of 10 games with it in play. If Lowe gets us sniffing around the play offs and a bigger club comes in he'll piss off because we refuse to pay the fees/wages for the players he needs. It'll be a Billy Davies at Derby situation.

We've got a lad in the youth team who's a prospect at right wing-back - Josh Seary but he's probably 2/3 years away from Championship football so this is a position that needs major investment, not just stop gaps.
 
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