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Wing backs.

Wing backs.

SF said:
I'd take any RWB now as long as they're remotely quick and direct, it's been 18 fucking months. Absolute disgrace.

Christie, Byrne, Kane, anyone, it's unbelievable how inept this club have been.
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The manager of Birmingham is letting Christie train because he’s an old mate ….were we really that unattractive that he’d go without a club?
 
Thracia said:
Yeah, the Ryan Lowe "players now have to look over their shoulders, there's quality competition for places" is largely bollocks really.

Woodman and Hughes have no such pressure - and more glaringly, nor does Potts.

Browne never seems to be under pressure for his starting spot, and nor do Whiteman or DJ.

And who's supposed to be pushing Riis and Parrott to keep their starting spots?

It's still mostly a bunch of first XI players plus a lot of SquadFilla™.

Even the bench yesterday picked itself - I bet there's hardly anyone on here who couldn't name the entire 18 before it was announced.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head there.
 
Yoowell said:
The manager of Birmingham is letting Christie train because he’s an old mate ….were we really that unattractive that he’d go without a club?
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Can only assume we've fucked him off if that's where he's ended up. Which is infuriating.
 
All the rumour was a RWB fell through only days ago. We don’t know why perhaps the selling/loaning club lost the replacement or had an injury or some other setback which meant that player isn’t surplus

The best loans like Archer on the cusp of prem squads are only going to be released very last minute

I still feel this could be a very good window although our strategy is risky
 
Walton said:
Is anyone else sick and fed up of the words “wing back”.

Is the manager a one trick pony.

If they are so hard to come by, should we be playing more to the strengths that is in the squad, presuming we have said strengths.

FFS Lowe, either get some of your precious wing backs or change the fucking formation, oh and ps.. get McCann in the team for a little run so we can be sure he is the guy who should be in the team instead of your man Browne. Your truly, Fed Up of Preston.
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After sixty years I’ve been on the verge, time after time of giving up And haven’t til now. Lowe and his wing backs is doing my head in. Rule one as coach / manager you pick your best ‘team‘ of players and play the system that works best for them. You can’t make square in round holes work all the time.look at Potts for an example. He will do the job to a point but not consistently and it’s the same for everyone of his selections Mccann as A wing back ,,, !,,Johnson as a wing back, Browne as a wingback Earl as a wingback ..Cunningham as a wingback .. .. definition of madness doing the same thing wrong getting the same result over and over. …
 
Thracia said:
Yeah, the Ryan Lowe "players now have to look over their shoulders, there's quality competition for places" is largely bollocks really.

Woodman and Hughes have no such pressure - and more glaringly, nor does Potts.

Browne never seems to be under pressure for his starting spot, and nor do Whiteman or DJ.

And who's supposed to be pushing Riis and Parrott to keep their starting spots?

It's still mostly a bunch of first XI players plus a lot of SquadFilla™.

Even the bench yesterday picked itself - I bet there's hardly anyone on here who couldn't name the entire 18 before it was announced.
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The only doubt was who would start with Riss ..and when Maguire is fit it only changes the obvious fractionally .. all those young lads coming through ? Pfftt ..
 
Seamustasmania said:
After sixty years I’ve been on the verge, time after time of giving up And haven’t til now. Lowe and his wing backs is doing my head in. Rule one as coach / manager you pick your best ‘team‘ of players and play the system that works best for them. You can’t make square in round holes work all the time.look at Potts for an example. He will do the job to a point but not consistently and it’s the same for everyone of his selections Mccann as A wing back ,,, !,,Johnson as a wing back, Browne as a wingback Earl as a wingback ..Cunningham as a wingback .. .. definition of madness doing the same thing wrong getting the same result over and over. …
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All nice in theory, but the best coaches are all set in their style as a manager; and make the squad suit them.

The added bonus is that we are still in transfer window; the left side is sorted, and we have five weeks to address the right side.

So don’t throw the towel in now: he isn’t ‘mad,’ he’s a talented young manager who likes a style of football. And we build a squad capable of playing the style over the next couple of windows if not even in the next couple of weeks. (Truth be told we aren’t going up or down for the next three windows anyway in all probability.)
 
pp1881 said:
All nice in theory, but the best coaches are all set in their style as a manager; and make the squad suit them.

The added bonus is that we are still in transfer window; the left side is sorted, and we have five weeks to address the right side.

So don’t throw the towel in now: he isn’t ‘mad,’ he’s a talented young manager who likes a style of football. And we build a squad capable of playing the style over the next couple of windows if not even in the next couple of weeks. (Truth be told we aren’t going up or down for the next three windows anyway in all probability.)
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For sure.

And we have a lot more people suited to play wingback than we do fullback at this point.
 
HunterLionheart said:
For sure.

And we have a lot more people suited to play wingback than we do fullback at this point.
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Absolutely.

I think half the problem for older fans, is that no one likes change; change is daunting. Football was fantastic when it was 4-4-2, we like our good old fashion centre halves.

But the truth is we all have to let go of the sentiments because times change and so does football.

And as much as we may dislike wingbacks, when it works it is absolutely sensational.

We are seing Liverpool and Man City and even Burnley on Friday! Use these wingbacks like attackers and I think it’s fantastic when it’s working.

Let’s accept we are going to be in the championship next season and give Ryan this window, January and next summer to do what he needs to do with personal to suit what he needs to do with our formation.

I really like his idea of the centre backs supporting the wingbacks out wide, if we give it time I honestly think he’ll do something special.

In the meantime for 12 months let’s stay off his back and support and if then it doesn’t work at that point; then it’s time for a change; but not through a lack of support and not through fear of the unknown
 
pp1881 said:
Absolutely.

I think half the problem for older fans, is that no one likes change; change is daunting. Football was fantastic when it was 4-4-2, we like our good old fashion centre halves.

But the truth is we all have to let go of the sentiments because times change and so does football.

And as much as we may dislike wingbacks, when it works it is absolutely sensational.

We are seing Liverpool and Man City and even Burnley on Friday! Use these wingbacks like attackers and I think it’s fantastic when it’s working.

Let’s accept we are going to be in the championship next season and give Ryan this window, January and next summer to do what he needs to do with personal to suit what he needs to do with our formation.

I really like his idea of the centre backs supporting the wingbacks out wide, if we give it time I honestly think he’ll do something special.

In the meantime for 12 months let’s stay off his back and support and if then it doesn’t work at that point; then it’s time for a change; but not through a lack of support and not through fear of the unknown
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I’ve no objection to change . By the time I finished playing real football (I scored my last Div 2 Tasmanian Football League Goal at 67 Id stopped hammering the leather studs into my Tom Fnney boots. I’ll go with any system that works. I’m just frustrated that so far we just don’t have the players to play the managers favourite system . sixty years is a long time and I’ve seen and had so many disappointments with PNE. But what the heck I can go around again. One more season, one more transfer window where the blinds have been pulled down on us so often isnot going to make that much difference ..still be Preston til I die .
 
Seamustasmania said:
After sixty years I’ve been on the verge, time after time of giving up And haven’t til now. Lowe and his wing backs is doing my head in. Rule one as coach / manager you pick your best ‘team‘ of players and play the system that works best for them. You can’t make square in round holes work all the time.look at Potts for an example. He will do the job to a point but not consistently and it’s the same for everyone of his selections Mccann as A wing back ,,, !,,Johnson as a wing back, Browne as a wingback Earl as a wingback ..Cunningham as a wingback .. .. definition of madness doing the same thing wrong getting the same result over and over. …
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The counterpoint is that he is gradually preparing the team for the time when we do have the right players to play that system, hopefully very soon.

Lots of players talk and coaches talk about the importance of knowing their roles and job inside out.

You could argue that the short termism of picking a team to suit your players when you're still in the building phase would be just as daft. And its not like results have been truly woeful either.

Lets see what he comes up with by the end of the window. If we are still missing those key pieces then perhaps some pragmatism will be needed but until then I think we have to roll with it.
 
Parrot buries that 1-on-1 on Saturday, and this thread doesn't exist.

Formation looked ok in the final game of last season, only difference being the quality we had in the team that day, compared to Saturday.

Get a grip.
 
pp1881 said:
Absolutely.

I think half the problem for older fans, is that no one likes change; change is daunting. Football was fantastic when it was 4-4-2, we like our good old fashion centre halves.

But the truth is we all have to let go of the sentiments because times change and so does football.

And as much as we may dislike wingbacks, when it works it is absolutely sensational.

We are seing Liverpool and Man City and even Burnley on Friday! Use these wingbacks like attackers and I think it’s fantastic when it’s working.

Let’s accept we are going to be in the championship next season and give Ryan this window, January and next summer to do what he needs to do with personal to suit what he needs to do with our formation.

I really like his idea of the centre backs supporting the wingbacks out wide, if we give it time I honestly think he’ll do something special.

In the meantime for 12 months let’s stay off his back and support and if then it doesn’t work at that point; then it’s time for a change; but not through a lack of support and not through fear of the unknown
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Interesting; I've learned something now. I thought Liverpool, Man City, and Burnley (on Friday) used 4-3-3 - with attack-minded full backs (used to call them overlapping fullbacks)yes - but I didn't realise they were classed as 'wingbacks'. And of course, the above system employs 2 centre backs.
 
Schemer said:
Interesting; I've learned something now. I thought Liverpool, Man City, and Burnley (on Friday) used 4-3-3 - with attack-minded full backs (used to call them overlapping fullbacks)yes - but I didn't realise they were classed as 'wingbacks'. And of course, the above system employs 2 centre backs.
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Yes you’re right about the back 4, they are most certainly wingbacks though. I suppose we’ve made it a 3 as we don’t have the van Dijks of the world to compensate.
 
Schemer said:
Interesting; I've learned something now. I thought Liverpool, Man City, and Burnley (on Friday) used 4-3-3 - with attack-minded full backs (used to call them overlapping fullbacks)yes - but I didn't realise they were classed as 'wingbacks'. And of course, the above system employs 2 centre backs.
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and thats were we went wrong..... We should have swapped Davies for Van Dyke and then we could play with 2 CB's.. opportunity missed !
 
3 transfer windows now of being a 352 team and we haven’t signed a RWB. Very poor.

The left hand side of Hughes, DJ, Brady/Fernandez looks to be good to me, but the right hand side combination of Storey, Browne and Potts looks miles away. Storey did well on Saturday but I’d look to upgrade all 3 of those spots.
 
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