We need to ship out a few non starters for me, sadly Cunningham is past his peak and may not get much game time depending on the fitness of Brady. Likewise we could opt loan out Ledson as we have so many midfielders on the squad he may not feature. Whoever gave Harrop a new deal needs to seriously get a grip and 'olwaysinjured' needs moving on asap. We've been here so many times as fans, we just need a couple of signings to set up a decent squad but we always seem to operate on such a tight budget. Sadly that affected the last manager negatively and history could easily repeat itself with the current. If we had any intent for promotion we go out and get a rwb, Robinson and a loanee centre half or additional striker. Fair play, the club may be working on more deals but what's so strange is last week we wanted 2 loans and 2 deals and now a week later we need players to leave before we sign new? That communication is particularly poor and the club must either say nothing or be consistent in their approach. Long week ahead.
Wing backs.
All Lowe might need would be a double-breasted pin-striped suit, long wing-collared shirt and bow tie, a Panama hat, shiny Italian spats, and sport a private Walker style tash.....and he'd be a real spiv.Hate the system, can’t think of any game under Lowe where I’ve come away thinking we look really good. Tbf to Lowe some of the playing staff he has to choose from leaves a lot to be desired.
Lowe himself, brought the feel good factor and some much needed positivity to the club although let’s be honest after FM that wasn’t a tough task. Very entertaining fist pumps after games also but can’t help get the impression he’s a bit of a chancer. 🤷♂️
its a shame you missed the M'Boro game......Hate the system, can’t think of any game under Lowe where I’ve come away thinking we look really good. Tbf to Lowe some of the playing staff he has to choose from leaves a lot to be desired.
Lowe himself, brought the feel good factor and some much needed positivity to the club although let’s be honest after FM that wasn’t a tough task. Very entertaining fist pumps after games also but can’t help get the impression he’s a bit of a chancer. 🤷♂️
AN wasn’t too far away with the 4-2-3-1 system until PR started selling/losing key players and replacing them with absolute garbage. Can fully see why AN lost interest in the end.
Anyway it looks as though we are stuck with this rubbish set up for the foreseeable future. Even if we wanted to we’d struggle to change as we’ve now got absolutely nothing in the way of wingers. 🤦♂️
but its quite simple... if WE PNE fans dont want a 3 5 2 formation dont employ a manager whose built his career on it....
Same as if you dont like long balls and long throws dont employ those managers,,,,
Paul Ince was available and yet we didnt employ him and utilise the far more successful 4 2 3 1 with Tom out wide.. 😉
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Well he does. Replied 4 hours later. Says its a games of opinions which is true and all the players we released were not first team worthy and the new players are. I think the new players are an upgrade on what we released but are not better than what we had on loan last year therefore we are weaker. He also mentions he has not been given any further budgetary monies to spend which is hugely disappointing. He finishes by saying that lets see where we are on the 1st September which sounds more encouraging.one way to find out..... its you who wants to question him.....
you can tell us if he doesnt....
well done for asking, credit to him for replying.....Well he does. Replied 4 hours later. Says its a games of opinions which is true and all the players we released were not first team worthy and the new players are. I think the new players are an upgrade on what we released but are not better than what we had on loan last year therefore we are weaker. He also mentions he has not been given any further budgetary monies to spend which is hugely disappointing. He finishes by saying that lets see where we are on the 1st September which sounds more encouraging.
We can only see if we are happier on Sept 1st....... not that some will be happy regardless.....
I do agree that 'our players' are better than 'our players last season...... but it was the loanees that won all our awards !
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Exactly!well done for asking, credit to him for replying.....
We can only see if we are happier on Sept 1st....... not that some will be happy regardless.....
I do agree that 'our players' are better than 'our players last season...... but it was the loanees that won all our awards !
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Watching Sheffield United and Watford another two teams playing wing backs.
The issue isn’t with the formation, the issue is the fact we’ve had a manager in for two windows now, who Ridsdale admitted we had identified for a while, who has played with wing backs for the vast majority of his managerial career and we still haven’t been able to get a suitable RWB in the door.
Do I think if we had brought RL in and he’d played 4-5-1 we would be in a position where we had signed all the players we needed to play the system? I don’t. We’d probably still be paying Rafferty if we played with orthodox full backs.
We didn’t back Neil with the players he wanted and so far that’s continued under Lowe. Maybe it’s a recruitment issue, maybe it’s a Preston in the Championship money issue but I don’t think the idea of wing backs are the problem.
The issue isn’t with the formation, the issue is the fact we’ve had a manager in for two windows now, who Ridsdale admitted we had identified for a while, who has played with wing backs for the vast majority of his managerial career and we still haven’t been able to get a suitable RWB in the door.
Do I think if we had brought RL in and he’d played 4-5-1 we would be in a position where we had signed all the players we needed to play the system? I don’t. We’d probably still be paying Rafferty if we played with orthodox full backs.
We didn’t back Neil with the players he wanted and so far that’s continued under Lowe. Maybe it’s a recruitment issue, maybe it’s a Preston in the Championship money issue but I don’t think the idea of wing backs are the problem.
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No idea what you’re on about .. sorry .. that’s gone right over my head .. 😳Your username intrigues me… maybe everyone else has noticed, but did you intentionally put the word SATSUMA backwards in it, or was it just a terrible accident?
Not accusing you of being a Lasher, btw!
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SATSUMA. A tangerine !!! Wash your mouth out with soap and water !! probably more relevant the word is also Japanese style of pottery , something I’ve just found out after looking up the word .. my daughter in law is Japanese .. purely coincidence I’m not that clever .. in old PNE forums I was SeanPneYour username intrigues me… maybe everyone else has noticed, but did you intentionally put the word SATSUMA backwards in it, or was it just a terrible accident?
Not accusing you of being a Lasher, btw!
It's what happens when you adopt a "head coach" approach for 6+ months, sign a right wing back like Olosunde (statistically solid defensively, but awful stats when in possession) and then ask the new manager to work with him, who wants guys comfortable on the ball who can get forward.Watching Sheffield United and Watford another two teams playing wing backs.
The issue isn’t with the formation, the issue is the fact we’ve had a manager in for two windows now, who Ridsdale admitted we had identified for a while, who has played with wing backs for the vast majority of his managerial career and we still haven’t been able to get a suitable RWB in the door.
Do I think if we had brought RL in and he’d played 4-5-1 we would be in a position where we had signed all the players we needed to play the system? I don’t. We’d probably still be paying Rafferty if we played with orthodox full backs.
We didn’t back Neil with the players he wanted and so far that’s continued under Lowe. Maybe it’s a recruitment issue, maybe it’s a Preston in the Championship money issue but I don’t think the idea of wing backs are the problem.
The same goes for why £1.2m McCann can't get a game under Lowe because he's not built for possession based football.
There was no strategy whatsoever in terms of that switch to head coach and no long term strategy in any of our 2021 recruitment.
It's all here and now, quick fixes. And we still don't have a competent attacking right wingback on the books. May not have one by Sept 1st either.
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I wrote after the luton away game last year that fans have an expectation that we willWatching Sheffield United and Watford another two teams playing wing backs.
The issue isn’t with the formation, the issue is the fact we’ve had a manager in for two windows now, who Ridsdale admitted we had identified for a while, who has played with wing backs for the vast majority of his managerial career and we still haven’t been able to get a suitable RWB in the door.
Do I think if we had brought RL in and he’d played 4-5-1 we would be in a position where we had signed all the players we needed to play the system? I don’t. We’d probably still be paying Rafferty if we played with orthodox full backs.
We didn’t back Neil with the players he wanted and so far that’s continued under Lowe. Maybe it’s a recruitment issue, maybe it’s a Preston in the Championship money issue but I don’t think the idea of wing backs are the problem.
Sign kafu n carlos as wing backs and then springle some magic dust and everything will be ok. I went on saturday and it was poor. We did not control the ball / dominate possession. If lowe is a good manager he should be able to change formation if we do not have a right sided wing back. At the moment he seems a one trick pony and his system worked in a poorer league. He inclusion of browne every game is beyond me. That bloke must know where the bodies are buried. He offered very little on saturday. At the moment i can see mid table at best. Even on the left side i can only remember hughes getting to the bye line once in the first half on the left. If brady is our “final” wing back then based on Saturday it seems fairly similar to last year
Have to say i (almost) totally agree with this.After sixty years I’ve been on the verge, time after time of giving up And haven’t til now. Lowe and his wing backs is doing my head in. Rule one as coach / manager you pick your best ‘team‘ of players and play the system that works best for them. You can’t make square in round holes work all the time.look at Potts for an example. He will do the job to a point but not consistently and it’s the same for everyone of his selections Mccann as A wing back ,,, !,,Johnson as a wing back, Browne as a wingback Earl as a wingback ..Cunningham as a wingback .. .. definition of madness doing the same thing wrong getting the same result over and over. …
In any environment (but) in this case Football you pick your best Team and then play a formula that suits them.
If you are particularly wedded to a system then over a period of time purchase the Players to play your preference.
Until such time, then if you are an open minded pragmatic person you chose the system around the personnel at your disposal.
Its not really rocket science, and is in fact bad Management to do otherwise!