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Time for action - An open letter to Preston North End FC (Meeting & responses added).

Time for action - An open letter to Preston North End FC (Meeting & responses added).

The termination date (if there is one) will be written into the trust deed which unfortunately we won't have access to. If no termination date is specified then as far as I know the trust will automatically expire in 125 years.
Under Isle of Man law, trusts used to expire automatically after 150 years - however, the law changed in 2015, and now trusts can exist in perpetuity, if no expiration date is specified in the trust deed.
 
I'm not so sure about this? The club is held in a trust controlled by Kathryn Revitt, so Craig Hemmings couldn't sell it even if he wanted to. It's quite possible that he's just as pissed off with the situation as we are? Unfortunately Kathryn Revitt seems to hold all the cards and she's the one we probably need to focus on? Having said that, Craig appears to be our only route to Revitt at the moment so ideally need to get him on our side?

Without getting Isle of Man lot 'personal' - is Revitt one of the Hemmings Family, or simply married to one of the Hemmings Family, or - simply employed by the Hemmings Family in a Professional Capacity - IE an Accountant or Business-Status Solicitor - without any personal interests in their 'Portfolio' of businesses ?
 
Without getting Isle of Man lot 'personal' - is Revitt one of the Hemmings Family, or simply married to one of the Hemmings Family, or - simply employed by the Hemmings Family in a Professional Capacity - IE an Accountant or Business-Status Solicitor - without any personal interests in their 'Portfolio' of businesses ?

This thread answers all your questions, especially e.g. post #47.

 
Who was it?

Catching up on it now.


This is a brief version of what was said. Keep in my this isn't verbatim, so tried to be as fair as possible to what was said.

Alan Kelly Jr - League position is a concern etc and that's probably where the letter has come from. Fair play to Craig Hemmings for responding quickly and for meeting with people it gives people a chance to discuss their thoughts and concerns, most people in charge of clubs wouldn't bother. Sometimes you have to take a step back and listen.

Pete Burns - It's interesting. It's good the club have that open dialogue. It's a small minority that would put their name to their letter, they have an alternative [presume they mean ulterior] agenda around the hierarchy. It's aimed at one individual who they [the letter signatures] think has more control of the club than what they do. Some common sense in the letter, but there's an under tome of other issues.

I don't think it's as bad a situation as social media says, it's a well run club financially. Everything has a knock on effect, people wouldn't be looking at the hierarchy if we were doing well. There's unhappiness about contract expires, about lack of sellable assets and that's where the frustration seems to be coming from.

Majority of the fans still with the team. I think there's some valid points that do need to be clarified but I think there's a personal vendetta.

Good opportunity to clear players out with those out of contract, but we need to stop getting into this situation year on year. Need to work a bit smarter but can't force a player to sign a contract.
 
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In almost all other business environments an employee who fails or falls below requirements would go through the disciplinary process. Verbal then first then final warnings then dismissal. I would say there is evidence that RIdsdale would have gone well past all those stages of the process. My question to Hemmings would be why is Ridsdale still employed by PNE and by keeping him employed suggests your are condoning his incompetence.

Seriously? From purely a business point of view they might argue he's succeeded...ww git promotion and have stayed there...agreed some shut decisions but I don't think he'll be going anywhere anytime down...I get that a large portion of fans will want him gone but doubt he will
 
The termination date (if there is one) will be written into the trust deed which unfortunately we won't have access to. If no termination date is specified then as far as I know the trust will automatically expire in 125 years.

Not sure if I can wait that long 🤔🥴
 
Just listened to that PNE fan on radio lancs, what a load of bollocks he came out with.
Saying the letter was just a tiny minority of fans and that the club is well run.
Why don't people just tell the truth, the club is a shambles and in freefall! We need direction and investment fast or we are going down!

Correct PN,
At the end of the interview he was confident we would finish mid table , 12th or so on.
So the wheel keeps turning for some ! Pretty condescending stuff there tonight with a 'minority social media driven' letter to boot being sent to C.H.
A.K stated we are a well run club who are not in debt.
Once results start turning the issues will drift away! Thats O.K then and well done to C.H for willing to meet members of the the restless minority
Out of touch Alan I am afraid, Do a bit of research instead of pandering to local media and your former employer.
 
Correct PN,
At the end of the interview he was confident we would finish mid table , 12th or so on.
So the wheel keeps turning for some ! Pretty condescending stuff there tonight with a 'minority social media driven' letter to boot being sent to C.H.
A.K stated we are a well run club who are not in debt.
Once results start turning the issues will drift away! Thats O.K then and well done to C.H for willing to meet members of the the restless minority
Out of touch Alan I am afraid, Do a bit of research instead of pandering to local media and your former employer.

Just watching Sheff Utd v Sunderland. We're so far away from the level these 2 PL serious contenders are, it's scary. Are you watching, Craig and Peter. Whatcha gonna do to get us to that sort of level??
 
Just listened to that PNE fan on radio lancs, what a load of bollocks he came out with.
Saying the letter was just a tiny minority of fans and that the club is well run.
Why don't people just tell the truth, the club is a shambles and in freefall! We need direction and investment fast or we are going down!

And it isn’t a tiny majority of fans…. This forum has 12,000+ members..
 
Just listened to that PNE fan on radio lancs, what a load of bollocks he came out with.
Saying the letter was just a tiny minority of fans and that the club is well run.
Why don't people just tell the truth, the club is a shambles and in freefall! We need direction and investment fast or we are going down!

I was that annoyed with him, I came off the M6 onto the services for 10 mins to calm down!
Scott Reid annoyed me as well with his initial thought that Craig Hemmings "shouldn't of bothered" about responding to the letter!!
An I even disagreed with Alan Kelly when he mentioned it was a good atmosphere after Greenwood's goal against Derby.
Greenwood hardly celebrated if at all an the noise from the fans was about as loud as when you get a consolation goal in a 5-1 stuffing!!
 
Without getting Isle of Man lot 'personal' - is Revitt one of the Hemmings Family, or simply married to one of the Hemmings Family, or - simply employed by the Hemmings Family in a Professional Capacity - IE an Accountant or Business-Status Solicitor - without any personal interests in their 'Portfolio' of businesses ?

I thought that she was Trevor’s bit on the side or as her Professional title is “ Trusted Advisor “
 
I was that annoyed with him, I came off the M6 onto the services for 10 mins to calm down!
Scott Reid annoyed me as well with his initial thought that Craig Hemmings "shouldn't of bothered" about responding to the letter!!
An I even disagreed with Alan Kelly when he mentioned it was a good atmosphere after Greenwood's goal against Derby.
Greenwood hardly celebrated if at all an the noise from the fans was about as loud as when you get a consolation goal in a 5-1 stuffing!!
I expected nothing less from radio lancs, they don't want to bite the hand that feeds and don't have the testicles to employ any individual thought.

They say that the forum is representative of a minority of fans so what representation does 3 guys on the radio have?

And as far as a good atmosphere when greenwood scored what planet is Alan Kelly on? What little atmosphere there was, was quickly snuffed out when they equalised 3 mins later.
 
Just have a feeling that the meeting will just be the usual attempt to railroad fans present. Can see Ridsdale gate crashing the meeting and brow beating fans into agreeing that we are a well run club. I also doubt that there will be a neutral recording the meeting a putting out full recorded minutes.
My advice to those attending is to keep to the agenda laid down by fans representatives. Remove Ridsdale if he does try to interfere or close the meeting if it appears reps not being taken taken seriously,
Don't let this movement fade away into the ether -stand firm and be prepared to move this matter on to Phase 2. I know it will be hard but if nothing is done NOW then the momentum will be lost.
Good luck to those attending. I look forward to reading full unredacted minutes
 
I expected nothing less from radio lancs, they don't want to bite the hand that feeds and don't have the testicles to employ any individual thought.

They say that the forum is representative of a minority of fans so what representation does 3 guys on the radio have?

And as far as a good atmosphere when greenwood scored what planet is Alan Kelly on? What little atmosphere there was, was quickly snuffed out when they equalised 3 mins later.

Absolutely!
I just couldn't believe what I was hearing.
Scott Reid is an out an out Dingle but to initially say that Hemmings "shouldn't of bothered" responding to the letter I think was disrespectful to say the least.
As for Pete Burns.....Ridsdale sympathiser alert!!
 
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