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Sam Greenwood

Sam Greenwood

Don’t think it will be an issue. Either Leeds go up and wages are out of reach or he doesn’t want to sign for us (based on recent performance like Riis).
 
baldnobber said:
No to signing Greenwood - get a prem loan in who can carry the ball to compete with and compliment Mads, and re-direct the budget towards wing backs.
Keep Mawene, find him a decent loan, and see where we're at in 18 months with him.
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We need o keep Mawene, get him some game time HERE. Give him an incentive to stay. We can't afford to keep driving our better youngsters away. Be brave for once and take chance. Can they do worse than the tried and tested??
 
Bobbage said:
I'm not so sure. Not convinced that Hecky actually rates him now he's had time to assess the squad he's inherited.

Been impressed how ruthless he's been over Okkels, tried to be with Whatmough and his own choice of Bowler, so maybe times are a-changing...?
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There's definitely a player in there. Good goal contribution from him this year. His most prolific season thus far.

Seems out of sorts recently.

At the money being talked about, we should probably be all over it.

Still quite young, with hopefully best years ahead.
 
Bhagwan Hardcastle said:
There's definitely a player in there. Good goal contribution from him this year. His most prolific season thus far.

Seems out of sorts recently.

At the money being talked about, we should probably be all over it.

Still quite young, with hopefully best years ahead.
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Can’t agree.

Just another Harrop/Woodburn type midfielder with nothing to offer….
 
He’s got a bit of attacking capability but can’t mark a player, just ends up giving fouls away, and not a good reader of the game, which is why Leeds don’t want him, Sunderland and Boro didn’t work, and why we’ve got him.

Has the odd quality dead ball strike, but that seems to have deserted him.

I think he’s an exact copy of the 2 players mentioned previously.

I see nothing in him unfortunately.
 
europne said:
He’s got a bit of attacking capability but can’t mark a player, just ends up giving fouls away, and not a good reader of the game, which is why Leeds don’t want him, Sunderland and Boro didn’t work, and why we’ve got him.

Has the odd quality dead ball strike, but that seems to have deserted him.

I think he’s an exact copy of the 2 players mentioned previously.

I see nothing in him unfortunately.
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He offers more on the ball than Woodburn, and offers more off the ball than Harrop. So he's definitely not an exact copy.

It's possible to not rate him without thinking he's the same as those two players. Because he's not a L2 player.

Also "just ends up giving fouls away" but is one of the better players in his position in the league for tackles won, and also wins fouls too.

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monky1234 said:
He offers more on the ball than Woodburn, and offers more off the ball than Harrop. So he's definitely not an exact copy.

It's possible to not rate him without thinking he's the same as those two players. Because he's not a L2 player.

Also "just ends up giving fouls away" but is one of the better players in his position in the league for tackles won, and also wins fouls too.

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Funnily enough I’ve been thinking for a while he reminds me of a mix between Harrop and Woodburn. Harrop wasn’t short of technical ability but showed nothing out of possession (still remember that Wycombe game where we had 3 midfielders against their 2 and they still managed to run the game). Woodburn had undeniable workrate but not ability
 
OB1 said:
Funnily enough I’ve been thinking for a while he reminds me of a mix between Harrop and Woodburn. Harrop wasn’t short of technical ability but showed nothing out of possession (still remember that Wycombe game where we had 3 midfielders against their 2 and they still managed to run the game). Woodburn had undeniable workrate but not ability
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Does offer something different in possession compared to Harrop, as more of a runner and ball carrier than Harrop, who tried rely on technical ability only.

But a combination of both of the better traits of Harrop and Woodburn is a far more fair comparison than the shouts of him being an exact copy of either of them.
 
Greenwood is a decent player, infuriating (like most our squad), but definitely has some talent.
He is one of very few players in our squad who can take the ball on the backfoot and turn his marker, then being able to drive forward with the ball.

However, the final ball is often poor, currently he’s waiting for the ball which allows a defender to ‘nip’ in and recently he’s simply been off it - couldn’t make five yard passes at Coventry.

For over £1m you would want a lot more consistency from him, which is why i would probably say no to the signing option.
 
I really do wish it worked out with Harrop.

At times it felt like he had all the talent in the world. Pretty sure in Jan 2020 he was unplayable then he just fell off a cliff. Real shame.

Edit: Just looked and he scored away at Rovers then backed it up a week later with a goal and assist against Charlton - never really kicked on after that.

FWIW, our team against Rovers in that game was:

Rudd, Clarke, Davies, Bauer, Rafferty, Pearson, Gallagher, Barky, Harrop, Browne, Maguire.

Sinclair, Potts, Fisher on the bench and we had DJ out injured. Should have done far more with that squad than we did.
 
I would take a risk on him for that price but not on £30,000 per week. We know he can play because he was good for us prior to Christmas. How many have we had on loan that were rubbish for us but ended up playing in the top leagues. I think Greenwood would improve and even if not good enough for us I don’t think we would lose out on him, maybe get even more.
 
norfolk white said:
I would take a risk on him for that price but not on £30,000 per week. We know he can play because he was good for us prior to Christmas. How many have we had on loan that were rubbish for us but ended up playing in the top leagues. I think Greenwood would improve and even if not good enough for us I don’t think we would lose out on him, maybe get even more.
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Where the hell did that figure come from?
 
Warton PNE said:
FWIW, our team against Rovers in that game was:

Rudd, Clarke, Davies, Bauer, Rafferty, Pearson, Gallagher, Barky, Harrop, Browne, Maguire.

Sinclair, Potts, Fisher on the bench and we had DJ out injured. Should have done far more with that squad than we did.
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This accurate take is not going to please the Alex Neil fan boys.
 
Libertine said:
This accurate take is not going to please the Alex Neil fan boys.
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Imagine how good that team would have been without carrying passengers like post injury Maguire, Rafferty and Harrop.

The one season he had even a first XI worthy of the name, he nearly made playoffs, and even then we lacked depth
 
65on said:
We need o keep Mawene, get him some game time HERE. Give him an incentive to stay. We can't afford to keep driving our better youngsters away. Be brave for once and take chance. Can they do worse than the tried and tested??
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It won't happen though. No chance PH picks him...his only interest is the here and now, not developing a young talent who could make the club serious money in 2-3 years - he won't be here to bear the fruits.
Our only way of bringing through youth is to find good, effective loans, and let them develop over a few years. We did it with Davies but not with Earl and Best...thrown straight in, out of their depth, it knocked them back and now they need to re-build their careers in lower league.
We are awful at sourcing loans for our young players...it's almost as if we have a data analyst as a loan and pathways manager...
 
baldnobber said:
It won't happen though. No chance PH picks him...his only interest is the here and now, not developing a young talent who could make the club serious money in 2-3 years - he won't be here to bear the fruits.
Our only way of bringing through youth is to find good, effective loans, and let them develop over a few years. We did it with Davies but not with Earl and Best...thrown straight in, out of their depth, it knocked them back and now they need to re-build their careers in lower league.
We are awful at sourcing loans for our young players...it's almost as if we have a data analyst as a loan and pathways manager...
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Mawene's loan opportunity was a very good one for him. Unfortunately he's been bloody awful.
 
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