Harrop
What good things did Fisher do yesterday?Yeah but Fisher is a top championship defender who has started 100 odd games at right back. Should have been Player of the season last year as well.
You’re welcome to try and ‘rip him apart’ but most people agree on his quality.
You might be the last man left willing to die on Harrop Hill.
Tell me about some good things he did today in probably his most favourable opportunity this season?
Oh yes, that’s right he wasn’t available, he was banned for being a complete & utter moron, letting his team & club down. Fisher is an absolute liability.
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I didn't at the time and still now don't get why Harrop was sent on.
Lose your DCM, so move your best ACM into a more defensive role, and bring in a lesser ACM .
Surely a more defensive or workmanlike player was a better option leaving DJ in the 10 spot.
Lose your DCM, so move your best ACM into a more defensive role, and bring in a lesser ACM .
Surely a more defensive or workmanlike player was a better option leaving DJ in the 10 spot.
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Hard to give him game time, doesn't apply himself as he should when gets time, he's a bit powderpuff.
Might be better off with a different manager or when all the "best" players leave and he has to play as one of the only options.
Might be better off with a different manager or when all the "best" players leave and he has to play as one of the only options.
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Yeah, this. These lads who aren't playing week in week out at some level at this kind of age can't 'make up' the time. The only guy I've seen play very little and be amazing was Carlo Bench Warmer Nash and he was a keeper.Talented player but an ineffective one.
Symptomatic of the under 23 system in my opinion - bet he looks great in 5 a sides in training but goes missing when it comes to the real thing.
Interesting to compare him to Ledson (think Harrop is a year older) who begged Everton to let him out on loan at 18 and then turned down a new deal at 19 to join Oxford, while Harrop didn't kick a competitive ball until he was 21.
Think we're now seeing the benefit of Ledson's 100 appearances at league 1/2 compared to Harrop's 1 prem appearance in an end of season dead rubber.
Harrop needs selling on the cheap.
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Harrop, Hughes and Earl having their deals extended is just a sign of the club’s ambition.
2 of them can’t stay fit for longer than a week and the other just isn’t looking like he’s ever going to fit in under Neil.
Really poor.
2 of them can’t stay fit for longer than a week and the other just isn’t looking like he’s ever going to fit in under Neil.
Really poor.
few who like Harrop can make an honest plea for including him in any future plans, you don't tell us of his qualities, his passion, his pride in wearing the shirt, his determination to show Neil (the useless twat) he warrants a place, just what more than a "feeling" or hunch can you people have?
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Harrop has been a bit of a myth since he arrived really.
Clearly got some level of ability with his United upbringing etc, but he can't tackle, struggles to track runners as a midfielder, finds it difficult to beat a man out wide and it's still not clear where his best position is in his fourth season here.
Alex Neil sees him everyday in training (same as anyone not in the team) and something must be missing for him not to get a consistent run of games. Giving him a new contract was protecting an asset to me and I'm not sure how much the manager had a say in the extension given it's controlled by Peter and the Isle of Man.
Clearly got some level of ability with his United upbringing etc, but he can't tackle, struggles to track runners as a midfielder, finds it difficult to beat a man out wide and it's still not clear where his best position is in his fourth season here.
Alex Neil sees him everyday in training (same as anyone not in the team) and something must be missing for him not to get a consistent run of games. Giving him a new contract was protecting an asset to me and I'm not sure how much the manager had a say in the extension given it's controlled by Peter and the Isle of Man.
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I’d agree with all that apart from the last bit...I would say Peter is controlled from the Isle of Man.Harrop has been a bit of a myth since he arrived really.
Clearly got some level of ability with his United upbringing etc, but he can't tackle, struggles to track runners as a midfielder, finds it difficult to beat a man out wide and it's still not clear where his best position is in his fourth season here.
Alex Neil sees him everyday in training (same as anyone not in the team) and something must be missing for him not to get a consistent run of games. Giving him a new contract was protecting an asset to me and I'm not sure how much the manager had a say in the extension given it's controlled by Peter and the Isle of Man.
United gave him a game in last meaningless match of season and he scored. His value shot up they sold him on at an inflated price to Pne. Undoubted ability but application and attitude questionable. Probably always been able to dribble round defenders and hadn’t needed to mark and tackle opponents to win the ball back. A N obviously would prefer a hard working type like Maguire to him. He was anonymous yesterday and as a replacement for Pearson was always going to struggle to be as good. Needs a change of club or manager/coach to nail down a regular place imo.
Think someone said the same after watching him against StokeDaryl Horgan was excellent today. Most of Wycombes attack came through him and our defenders were petrified of him. He is absolutely not the same player that left us
No he didn't. AN wanted him to stayNeed I say, AN regressed his playing ability. Or drove the confidence out of him?...
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He wasn't a replacement for Pearson. He replaced Johnson in the no.10 role, which is supposedly his best position and the one many expect him to claim when Johnson leaves.United gave him a game in last meaningless match of season and he scored. His value shot up they sold him on at an inflated price to Pne. Undoubted ability but application and attitude questionable. Probably always been able to dribble round defenders and hadn’t needed to mark and tackle opponents to win the ball back. A N obviously would prefer a hard working type like Maguire to him. He was anonymous yesterday and as a replacement for Pearson was always going to struggle to be as good. Needs a change of club or manager/coach to nail down a regular place imo.
Harrop, Bayliss and Bodin are three talented players who would flourish in a team playing a different style of football.
Sadly under Alex Neil's turgid brand of football it won't be at North End.
The sad thing is the best youth team players at the club are now realising the same and either won't sign or probably wish they hadn't.
Sadly under Alex Neil's turgid brand of football it won't be at North End.
The sad thing is the best youth team players at the club are now realising the same and either won't sign or probably wish they hadn't.
How much did we pay for Harrop? My Preston supporting friends are saying he was signed on a free..
Edit: Just checked the article on the official site from when we signed him and it says a "significant undisclosed fee" was agreed between us and Man Utd.
Edit: Just checked the article on the official site from when we signed him and it says a "significant undisclosed fee" was agreed between us and Man Utd.
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£750K and a big big salary to go with it.How much did we pay for Harrop? Everyone I know is saying he was signed on a free..
Edit: Just checked the article on the official site from when we signed him and it says a "significant undisclosed fee" was agreed between us and Man Utd.
I’m quite surprised it’s taken people this long to notice that he isn’t good enough.
Horgan did the right thing to go and play regular football - a loan would help Harrop to do the same
Motherwell - he'll be a sensation there 👍
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few who like Harrop can make an honest plea for including him in any future plans, you don't tell us of his qualities, his passion, his pride in wearing the shirt, his determination to show Neil (the useless twat) he warrants a place, just what more than a "feeling" or hunch can you people have?
I’ve defended him a lot on here Billy but it’s getting to the point where I can’t keep sticking up for him.
The lad undoubtedly has ability (contrary to what some on here think) but for whatever reason can’t produce it consistently.
For me he’s not the type of hard working player AN wants (which makes the decision to give him a new deal all the more puzzling) & I don’t think he thinks the manager has confidence in him. When he has had a decent game more often than not he’s ended up on the bench again for the next one.
Yes I think he’d benefit from a run of games in the side but the fact is whilst we aren’t in a good run of form he won’t get that.
He’s a confidence player IMO & AN can’t or doesn’t want to bring that out in him.
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£750K and a big big salary to go with it.
I’m quite surprised it’s taken people this long to notice that he isn’t good enough.
To say he’s not good enough is nonsense IMO.
Ability wise he’s more than good enough, it’s what he does or is told to do with that ability that’s not good enough.