I fear the 3 new strikers would struggle to score in that massage parlour at the end of new hall lane.
Hayes To Derby???
I fear the 3 new strikers would struggle to score in that massage parlour at the end of new hall lane.
No matter how much you dislike Hayes......it is still bad business to lend him to a club who are still relegation candidates. He only needs to score the winner of one game and for Derby to finish a point above us for it to be a candidate for worst deal of the season.
I'm no Hayes fan, but I can't see the sense in allowing him to go to Derby.
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It said on the wireless earlier that Brown has stated there had been no further contact from derby.
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DERBY County have agreed a deal to bring in striker Paul Hayes on loan – but not in time for tonight's home game against in-form Hull City.
The paperwork is due to be completed tomorrow and Hayes' loan will run until the end of the season.
The 27-year-old is in Preston North End's squad for their Championship clash with Nottingham Forest at the City Ground this evening.
Another of Derby's loan signings, Jamie Ward, partnered Steve Davies up front in Saturday's goalless draw against Scunthorpe but the Rams are keen to bolster their attacking options further.
"He (Hayes) would be another striking option," said manager Nigel Clough ahead of Hull's visit to Pride Park Stadium (7.45pm).
"We are aware Steven Davies might have a dip after coming back from a long-term injury and he looked a bit more tired on Saturday.
"Jamie Ward is not going to be available for the Sheffield United game, the club he is on loan from, and Chris Porter has not been banging the goals in, so we could do with as many options as possible up front.
"We feel he (Hayes) is our sort of player, an intelligent player, and he has always done well against us.
"Despite having a few forwards at the moment, I would not say any are in great form or fully fit."
Hayes enjoyed a fruitful striking partnership with Gary Hooper at Scunthorpe last season but he has failed to win a regular place at Preston following his move on a free transfer in the summer.
He has played 18 games for Preston and scored three goals. He has figured as a substitute in the last two matches but spent a loan spell at Barnsley earlier this season, where he failed to score in seven appearances
The paperwork is due to be completed tomorrow and Hayes' loan will run until the end of the season.
The 27-year-old is in Preston North End's squad for their Championship clash with Nottingham Forest at the City Ground this evening.
Another of Derby's loan signings, Jamie Ward, partnered Steve Davies up front in Saturday's goalless draw against Scunthorpe but the Rams are keen to bolster their attacking options further.
"He (Hayes) would be another striking option," said manager Nigel Clough ahead of Hull's visit to Pride Park Stadium (7.45pm).
"We are aware Steven Davies might have a dip after coming back from a long-term injury and he looked a bit more tired on Saturday.
"Jamie Ward is not going to be available for the Sheffield United game, the club he is on loan from, and Chris Porter has not been banging the goals in, so we could do with as many options as possible up front.
"We feel he (Hayes) is our sort of player, an intelligent player, and he has always done well against us.
"Despite having a few forwards at the moment, I would not say any are in great form or fully fit."
Hayes enjoyed a fruitful striking partnership with Gary Hooper at Scunthorpe last season but he has failed to win a regular place at Preston following his move on a free transfer in the summer.
He has played 18 games for Preston and scored three goals. He has figured as a substitute in the last two matches but spent a loan spell at Barnsley earlier this season, where he failed to score in seven appearances
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With this deal looking likely does anyone know if we're planning on replacing him with anyone? I certainly hope we are!!
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Does it actually matter? We aren't going to bring in anyone who'll do a decent job within the time left till end of season and so whats the point in bothering about it now. Hayes has done shit so good riddance, lets start preparing for next season instead of getting in 'more' loan players; something which has been prominent all season and has done us no good whatsoever.
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If it's going to be the standard of Johnson and Clarke, let's not bother.
I'd rather give some of our young lads some experience that will stand us in good stead for next season tbh.
As for Hayes, I think we haven't seen the best of him (to put it mildly) but I wouldn't be surprised if he went elsewhere and did well.
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Maybe Brown has seen something in Proctor...just a thought.
Let's fact it, why throw good money after bad? The vast majority of loan signings this season have proved either useless or injury-prone. Or both. With the obvious exception of Cort. And we all know we're 90 per cent certain of relegation. I'd much rather see a young reserve striker given some experience to show what he can do rather than someone who hasn't really settled here and clearly either wants away or doesn't fit into the equation at Deepdale.
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Sorry Staffordwhite - I didn't read your post before replying to the thread. You put it better than me!
Hayes should only be allowed to leave on a loan to perm deal. Anything else does not make sense, as in the remote chance we do manage a remarkable turnaround Derby are one of the few teams we may catch. To have that snatched away by a player contracted to PNE would be senseless.
If they guarantee to take him off our hands at the end of the season, it is one less big wage to worry about when we are relegated.
If they guarantee to take him off our hands at the end of the season, it is one less big wage to worry about when we are relegated.
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Or if we stay up!
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Clough made to wait on deal for Preston's Paul Hayes
Paul Hayes
Hayes has spent time on loan at Barnsley this season
Derby County will have to wait until Wednesday to wrap up a loan deal for Preston North End striker Paul Hayes, reports BBC Radio Derby.
Rams boss Nigel Clough hoped to sign Hayes before Tuesday's game with Hull.
But Preston manager Phil Brown is not prepared to let Hayes go until after the league game with Nottingham Forest.
Hayes joined North End in the summer but has failed to win a regular place and is set to join the Rams until the end of the season.
Derby have been trying to bolster their attacking options for several weeks.
Attempts to sign Leicester's Martyn Waghorn and Conor Sammon from Kilmarnock both failed in the January transfer window but Clough did sign Jamie Ward on loan from Sheffield United last week.
Clough made to wait on deal for Preston's Paul Hayes
Paul Hayes
Hayes has spent time on loan at Barnsley this season
Derby County will have to wait until Wednesday to wrap up a loan deal for Preston North End striker Paul Hayes, reports BBC Radio Derby.
Rams boss Nigel Clough hoped to sign Hayes before Tuesday's game with Hull.
But Preston manager Phil Brown is not prepared to let Hayes go until after the league game with Nottingham Forest.
Hayes joined North End in the summer but has failed to win a regular place and is set to join the Rams until the end of the season.
Derby have been trying to bolster their attacking options for several weeks.
Attempts to sign Leicester's Martyn Waghorn and Conor Sammon from Kilmarnock both failed in the January transfer window but Clough did sign Jamie Ward on loan from Sheffield United last week.
http://www.lep.co.uk/sport/football/pne_paul_hayes_stays_1_3128798
Preston boss Phil Brown has put paid to Derby County’s attempts to sign Paul Hayes on loan.
A possible move to Pride Park for the striker had been bubbling under for quite some time, but Brown chose to block it when the Rams started to be dragged towards the lower reaches of the table.
There is still the chance of 27-year-old Hayes being lent out before the closure of the Football League loan window later this month.
But that wouldn’t be to a club engaged with North End in the Championship relegation dogfight.
Brown told the Evening Post: “I wasn’t prepared to lend Paul to Derby. Why should I benefit any football club in and around where we are in the Championship?
“I have had regular chats with Paul, he is frustrated and just wants to play, which I can understand. He is willing to go out on loan and that is something we have talked about.
“It would only be if it was right for me as manager of Preston North End.
“If it was a club higher up the table or in another division, maybe it would happen.”
Hayes, a Bosman signing from Scunthorpe last May, has already had one loan spell away from Deepdale this season, joining Barnsley for two months.
He is among a clutch of strikers competing for a place in Brown’s attack as PNE look to defy the odds and claw their way out of relegation danger.
Iain Hume’s return to action as a second-half substitute in the derby clash with Burnley following a hamstring injury was a big boost.
The Canadian front man will get a run-out in the reserves against Wrexham tomorrow afternoon (2pm) – a game which has been switched to Deepdale from Chorley – to sharpen up his match fitness.
Chris Brown is likely to join Hume in a side featuring a number of players from the first-team squad.
He has been sidelined since picking up a knee injury early in Brown’s first game in charge against Nottingham Forest in the FA Cup.
Reflecting on Hume’s return to the fray after a four-match absence, Brown said: “Iain is going to play a major part in our survival campaign.
“He is bright, lively, sharp and bubbly character who just wants the ball when he gets on the field of play.
“Iain shows initiative, he closes down in the right manner and has bundles of energy.
“Whether we can get that for 90 minutes and then for the 12 games after that, I don’t know – it’s a balancing act.
“Let’s get our best players out there and see what happens.
“Iain, I believe, is undoubtedly one of our best players, so hopefully he’ll come through the reserve game unscathed and be ready for Norwich.”
On the fitness front, Brown reported that Amine Linganzi and Callum Davidson were edging closer to returns from injury.
Linganzi is recovering from hernia surgery, the midfielder having been injured 45 minutes into his debut against Leicester in January.
His rehabilitation is being done at parent club Blackburn, with Brown predicting he’ll be back in a fortnight.
Club captain Davidson is three weeks away from full fitness as he battles against a recurring calf muscle problem.
Preston boss Phil Brown has put paid to Derby County’s attempts to sign Paul Hayes on loan.
A possible move to Pride Park for the striker had been bubbling under for quite some time, but Brown chose to block it when the Rams started to be dragged towards the lower reaches of the table.
There is still the chance of 27-year-old Hayes being lent out before the closure of the Football League loan window later this month.
But that wouldn’t be to a club engaged with North End in the Championship relegation dogfight.
Brown told the Evening Post: “I wasn’t prepared to lend Paul to Derby. Why should I benefit any football club in and around where we are in the Championship?
“I have had regular chats with Paul, he is frustrated and just wants to play, which I can understand. He is willing to go out on loan and that is something we have talked about.
“It would only be if it was right for me as manager of Preston North End.
“If it was a club higher up the table or in another division, maybe it would happen.”
Hayes, a Bosman signing from Scunthorpe last May, has already had one loan spell away from Deepdale this season, joining Barnsley for two months.
He is among a clutch of strikers competing for a place in Brown’s attack as PNE look to defy the odds and claw their way out of relegation danger.
Iain Hume’s return to action as a second-half substitute in the derby clash with Burnley following a hamstring injury was a big boost.
The Canadian front man will get a run-out in the reserves against Wrexham tomorrow afternoon (2pm) – a game which has been switched to Deepdale from Chorley – to sharpen up his match fitness.
Chris Brown is likely to join Hume in a side featuring a number of players from the first-team squad.
He has been sidelined since picking up a knee injury early in Brown’s first game in charge against Nottingham Forest in the FA Cup.
Reflecting on Hume’s return to the fray after a four-match absence, Brown said: “Iain is going to play a major part in our survival campaign.
“He is bright, lively, sharp and bubbly character who just wants the ball when he gets on the field of play.
“Iain shows initiative, he closes down in the right manner and has bundles of energy.
“Whether we can get that for 90 minutes and then for the 12 games after that, I don’t know – it’s a balancing act.
“Let’s get our best players out there and see what happens.
“Iain, I believe, is undoubtedly one of our best players, so hopefully he’ll come through the reserve game unscathed and be ready for Norwich.”
On the fitness front, Brown reported that Amine Linganzi and Callum Davidson were edging closer to returns from injury.
Linganzi is recovering from hernia surgery, the midfielder having been injured 45 minutes into his debut against Leicester in January.
His rehabilitation is being done at parent club Blackburn, with Brown predicting he’ll be back in a fortnight.
Club captain Davidson is three weeks away from full fitness as he battles against a recurring calf muscle problem.