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Realistic Expectations

Realistic Expectations

buckshawwhite said:
Good post.... Only bit I'd take issue with is Ridsdale. Whether he has done anything wilfully against the best interests of the club isnt really a question. I still think we need someone younger & more dynamic in his position, who can think beyond his " if you get 2 out of 5 signings right youre on a winner" ambition
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I can see that
 
Mr Meeseeks said:
1. Nobody, this is the issue. They need to accept the reality and sell the club for a reasonable fee just to be done of it.

2. What moneybags? Burnley? Weren't long ago we were on par with them but they had something called ambition and now they're one of the so called moneybags. Luton, Coventry and Millwall are similar size clubs with similar budgets, they are outperforming us. I could mention Brentford and Brighton too but it's been done to death.

3. Not sure, for me he's done well with the tools available to him. Some people just don't like his personality and others can't get over the dross on offer at home for most the season. I understand both to be fair.

4. Peter Ridsdale has ruined Leeds United, Cardiff City and Plymouth Argyle in the past. Since he left the clubs they have moved forwards. He is a dictator who has too much involvement in the day to day running of the club on and off the pitch. On top of that he acts like a petulant child across social media and where this forum is concerned. He has to go, it's as simple as that.
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Not sure Leeds, Cardiff are better off?
Also, worth remembering both clubs had boards of Directors making collective decisions.
 
TLDR. It basically translates to pay your season ticket money. Sit down nice and quiet. Politely applaud any old shit that goes on and go home at the end of the game and say how amazing little pne were.

Oh also don't you dare have any dreams or ambitions that lie anywhere above 13th place in the table. That place isn't for little clubs like north end.

Give me fucking strength
 
Joanpne said:
If by being real you accept you are winning nothing nor even progressing to win anything, I don’t understand why we bother at all. Why don’t we just have a social club instead if it’s just about families and mates because the sport plays no part in that, it becomes just a meeting place.
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I want this club to get to the Premiership as much as anyone else - I still feel down when we lose and I still get a high when we win. But given that I have quite literally sobbed - when I just a lad - and been punched in the face - when I was a bit older - while supporting this team I have perhaps become a bit flak-happy. Next season I have always though will be the one where we find out if RL can get us where we want to be.
 
tcinders said:
Not sure Leeds, Cardiff are better off?
Also, worth remembering both clubs had boards of Directors making collective decisions.
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The post Ridsdale effect

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Mr Meeseeks said:
4. Peter Ridsdale has ruined Leeds United, Cardiff City and Plymouth Argyle in the past. Since he left the clubs they have moved forwards. He is a dictator who has too much involvement in the day to day running of the club on and off the pitch. On top of that he acts like a petulant child across social media and where this forum is concerned. He has to go, it's as simple as that.
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please don't forget the mess he left Barnsley in too, nearly bankrupt them, unfortunately Ridsdale will do and say anything to cling onto his directorship with PNE and his place on the EFL board, we are stuck with this clown until the club is "sold" or KR sacks the fucker.
 
Warton PNE said:
I wish I was in my 50's and 60's.
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Please don’t do that Warton. It’s not all it’s cracked up to be, and it’s not cracked up to be much. 🙁
Warton PNE said:
It seems like a majority of fans from that generation are happy to simply tread water and watch the club dwindle down the divisions.
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Sign me up as a member of the minority. From my “reading” of the forum, I’d suggest the polar opposite?
Warton PNE said:
I'm not - it's fucking tedious and boring.
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Amen!
Warton PNE said:
I guess I should be happy we have a club. 'But what about Bolton and Bury!'. Well fucking one of those is about to fly past us if they win the play offs this year.

Oh, and the fact that you can't see Peter Ridsdale is a problem, give me fucking strength.
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The deficiencies in terms of ambition, planning & strategy, investment etc, etc; reference to successes of clubs “similar” to PNE have been raised and debated ad infinitum on here, with a majority agreeing on the lack of all the former and frankly justifiable jealousy towards the latter.
Some appear to need the scales to fall from their eyes with regards PR, from posts on here don’t the majority want rid, with the “happy clappers” belonging to other social medium platforms? (One among many reasons I don’t subscribe to such.)
Speaking for this “old timer,” which is all I can do, RIDSDALE OUT!!!*
* Sentiment may apply to ownership & other parts of the club establishment.
 
Thracia said:
Brentford, Brighton, Luton, Millwall all answer the empty question "why should we be finishing higher?"

And finishing 13th - still highly likely with a game to go - is not top half, but it's where we've finished for 3 years straight now. Some fans might start to find that boring and unambitious.

As does the manager, who is all over the media saying as much, in terms, which is why there are "question marks over the manager".

In fact, you'd have to be living under a rock not to address that fact in a standard boiler-plate end-of-year PNE complacency post like this.

Meanwhile the carefully-couched legalese defence of Ridsdale ("irrefutable proof" is required) is immediately brought into question by stunts like Whatsappgate, which we're all still waiting for a Club Update about.
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Am miles behind on this thread and haven’t read all of it, but have you seen Brighton play recently ? 👌👌

Son told me Brighton and Brentford are owned or run by Actuaries , not sure if that’s true but shit Brighton look good
 
A good OP but lets face it, whether you think we have over achieved on our budget or you think we can do better, we will never do that with PR at the club. Its a plain and simple fact, so why is he here?
 
TheWarehouse said:
Having watch the club all over the country for the last 53 years I would love to see us in the Top Flight, but with the exception of the period when Derek was chairman we haven’t even been close in all that time, I’d much rather see us finish the season in the top half of the division than be Blackpool or Wigan.
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So you have given up on the football dream ?
 
mapping said:
Am miles behind on this thread and haven’t read all of it, but have you seen Brighton play recently ? 👌👌

Son told me Brighton and Brentford are owned or run by Actuaries , not sure if that’s true but shit Brighton look good
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I saw them in the FA Cup semi-final and I thought they were much the better team.

Promotion to the Prem makes a lot of things possible, but neither Brentford nor Brighton got there by setting out their bottom-4 budget in May then sitting back for 46 games clutching their lottery ticket. Both clubs, in their different ways, decided what they wanted to achieve, made the necessary investments, and made it happen, blowing us away and breezing right past us in the process.
 
mapping said:
Am miles behind on this thread and haven’t read all of it, but have you seen Brighton play recently ? 👌👌

Son told me Brighton and Brentford are owned or run by Actuaries , not sure if that’s true but shit Brighton look good
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It's not too long ago that they were playing on a rented hockey pitch!

Then you get Bournmouth who got fined for breaking the fair play rules , but only after they were promoted and had all the Prem dosh in their bank account.

Fair do's to Brentford, as far as I know they done it on merit and with all the problems of being surounded by "big clubs" like ourselves.
 
Thracia said:
I saw them in the FA Cup semi-final and I thought they were much the better team.

Promotion to the Prem makes a lot of things possible, but neither Brentford nor Brighton got there by setting out their bottom-4 budget in May then sitting back for 46 games clutching their lottery ticket. Both clubs, in their different ways, decided what they wanted to achieve, made the necessary investments, and made it happen, blowing us away and breezing right past us in the process.
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Agree they were much the better team in the semi ! Lose there manager and appoint someone no one has heard of and business as usual 🤷‍♂️

The take away point is “necessary investment “
 
Realistically, we should be able to expect not to be bored shitless for multiple games throughout the season.

Realistically, we should be able to expect to feel like the club is being honest with the fans.

And on a personal note, I'd love to see us play with genuine wingers instead of wingbacks. This might also help alleviate the boredom.
 
mapping said:
Am miles behind on this thread and haven’t read all of it, but have you seen Brighton play recently ? 👌👌

Son told me Brighton and Brentford are owned or run by Actuaries , not sure if that’s true but shit Brighton look good
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Both Brighton or Brentford could get into euope next season which is incredible where they where few seasons ago now.
 
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