RIP Shaky
Mike, your inbox is full and I was trying to pm you. Let me know when it's clear mate.
On the other thread he says he has a lot to clear, think he has email address on his profile he said to use
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I went to the funeral today with PNE4EVA2003 and Sanpne. I saw Billymac, JK, Equine (Horse of old) Johhny Macken, Crusader, Bayside, JD, deepdaledes, Bint, Halli and quite a few more.
The day was filled with sadness, laughter and togetherness and always with dignity. Shaky would have been a proud man indeed and, rightly so, he touched each and everyone us that knew him whether through this site or personally. A lovely day for Shaky, his family should be very proud.
The day was filled with sadness, laughter and togetherness and always with dignity. Shaky would have been a proud man indeed and, rightly so, he touched each and everyone us that knew him whether through this site or personally. A lovely day for Shaky, his family should be very proud.
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Shaky was certainly a well respected chap, huge turnout for him in church. A great representation from the forum & PNE fans too. The lad got a great send off.
Also great to announce at his wake we have raised £920 for RETHINK in Shaky's memory. The news got a huge round of applause.
http://www.justgiving.com/RIPDavidHowson
Also great to announce at his wake we have raised £920 for RETHINK in Shaky's memory. The news got a huge round of applause.
http://www.justgiving.com/RIPDavidHowson
Glad to read that the funeral went well.
I popped into the Old Black Bull after work. Sadly they didn't have Coniston Bluebird, but they did have the next best thing - PNE and Proud! (from Moorhouses).
Here's to you Shaky. Rest in peace.
I popped into the Old Black Bull after work. Sadly they didn't have Coniston Bluebird, but they did have the next best thing - PNE and Proud! (from Moorhouses).
Here's to you Shaky. Rest in peace.
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Oh and I'd just like to add: a big pat on the back to those who've discussed depression and their experiences. As they call it, 'the silent killer', there is probably no worse a location to discuss it than a football forum where them main aim of many is to berate others. So well done, the effects and impacts of depression do need to be brought into the open, to make those unaware aware and at the same time get therapy from talking about it yourself. It's such a shame it takes the death of someone like Shaky to bring this about.
Oh and I'd just like to add: a big pat on the back to those who've discussed depression and their experiences. As they call it, 'the silent killer', there is probably no worse a location to discuss it than a football forum where them main aim of many is to berate others. So well done, the effects and impacts of depression do need to be brought into the open, to make those unaware aware and at the same time get therapy from talking about it yourself. It's such a shame it takes the death of someone like Shaky to bring this about.
I agree absolutely with this. Strangely enough on the journey home we were discussing how Shaky had touched our lives even though we had known him a comparitively short time. One thing I said was that I understood depression perhaps a bit more than I did before and we (Sharon, Sandra and me) have all learned not to make assumptions about anyone. Shaky was one of the most outoing, funny person we have ever met, and we could never have believed he was in such emotional pain.
I am in absolute awe of the people who have bared their hearts and souls on this thread, I am honoured to be acquainted with such men and, thanks to Shaky, I understand much more and pray that your pain is helped by knowing that many arms are around you in comfort.
Oh and I'd just like to add: a big pat on the back to those who've discussed depression and their experiences. As they call it, 'the silent killer', there is probably no worse a location to discuss it than a football forum where them main aim of many is to berate others. So well done, the effects and impacts of depression do need to be brought into the open, to make those unaware aware and at the same time get therapy from talking about it yourself. It's such a shame it takes the death of someone like Shaky to bring this about.
A few years ago I couldn't even have gone to Shaky's funeral today...suffered for years, since my late teens, early twenties, not as bad as some and even lost a friend aged 41 in the same way as Shaky through it last year. People put fronts on and hide things...I've had counselling, anti-depressants and I've turned a corner...hopefully I'll never go back there.
Think it's brilliant that people are opening up about it...thank you.
P.S. Chris, married life suits you, was really lovely to see you again today and meet a few new faces x
I agree absolutely with this. Strangely enough on the journey home we were discussing how Shaky had touched our lives even though we had known him a comparitively short time. One thing I said was that I understood depression perhaps a bit more than I did before and we (Sharon, Sandra and me) have all learned not to make assumptions about anyone. Shaky was one of the most outoing, funny person we have ever met, and we could never have believed he was in such emotional pain.
I am in absolute awe of the people who have bared their hearts and souls on this thread, I am honoured to be acquainted with such men and, thanks to Shaky, I understand much more and pray that your pain is helped by knowing that many arms are around you in comfort.
+1 🙂 xx
I found out about Dave a few days ago but was struggling to articulate my thoughts into words to add to this thread at the time.
The friction between me and Shaky has been well documented on here. However, I'm pleased to say that in more recent times we were on good terms privately. There were mis-understandings on both sides but there was also something massive that we had in common. And no, I don't mean that we were both Cumbrians!😉 I will explain more below.
The big thing we had in common was suffering from depression. I havn't talked about this publicly before although a handful of people on here knew about it to varying degrees. However, it's something that should be discussed more as that is the only way to create better understanding of this devastating illness as well as expel the many myths and misconceived perceptions. It is often more common in men as we tend not to talk about feelings as us men are supposed to be tough! If only we could chinwag like you women! It's good to talk and if that makes me a soft twat, then so be it.
For me it was a series of events that triggered it. I understand it was the same for Dave. You need to actually experience it to fully comprehend its affects. It causes devastation to life. When you go through it, perceptions of words, situations and events can be vastly distorted and exaggerated. Any everyday negative in life can be magnified 100 times when suffering from depression. This compounds what is already a living hell. It creates a viscous circle of what appears to be insurmountable problems. It's a downward spiral. It affects different people in different ways and manifests itself in different ways in different people.
To put it mildly, Shaky could be very difficult and stubborn on here! He was also very easy to wind up about Lonners! 😉 Away from the forum Dave was a good man with a good heart.
The Cumbrian C**t was supposed to be buying me a pint! Anyway he has got out of that one for now. I now wish I had arranged it sooner.
About a 15 months ago I changed my mobile as it was old and the battery was knackered. A couple of weeks ago I got it up and running again as I wanted to retrieve some data and guess what, there was a text from Shaky which said:
"Hi Mike, its Shaky. Havent heard from you in a while and some of us are worried about you mate. Please let us know you are ok, and if you are not, youre not alone mate, youre mates at PNE-Online are genuinely concerned." 09:55 15-10-10
I wish I had seen that text earlier.🙁 As I said earlier, he had a big heart.
Dave I know how much you loved Gods County of Cumbria but hated being a Cumbrian! It would have been good to get to a hound trail and photograph those dogs in action. And yes, I know the wise crack response you would have replied with! 😀
To a fellow Cumbrian, Good night and God bless.
Mike
People, please remember it's good to talk. Nobody should suffer in silence.
Good thoughts openly written Mike .
Noelpne.
Just to lighten the mood a little, the line of the day came from deepdaledes to JD. Des gave JD a book in which to write something about Shaky, and it went like this:-
des: "Here write in this"
JD: "What do I just sign it"
des: "No, put something about Shaky in it a memory or something, but for goodness sake remember there are only 200 pages"
I have laughted at this all afternoon (sorry JD) and Shaky would have enjoyed the joke I am sure.
Whilst its on my mind, I enjoyed the day with my fellow pne-online members, I am grateful for the opportunity of being in all of your lives. I have met some darned good friends though this forum and for that I am truely grateful. Sharon and Sandra thank you so very much for taking me today, you are very special to me.
des: "Here write in this"
JD: "What do I just sign it"
des: "No, put something about Shaky in it a memory or something, but for goodness sake remember there are only 200 pages"
I have laughted at this all afternoon (sorry JD) and Shaky would have enjoyed the joke I am sure.
Whilst its on my mind, I enjoyed the day with my fellow pne-online members, I am grateful for the opportunity of being in all of your lives. I have met some darned good friends though this forum and for that I am truely grateful. Sharon and Sandra thank you so very much for taking me today, you are very special to me.
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I guessed The Shakey had suffered from this terrible illness from the way he would defend the mention of it. He would also chastise anyone who would dare to criticise anyone who suffered from it.
Unfortunately, like most folk here, I had no idea that he was still suffering so bad.
Shakeys death came as a total shock to me and even more so when I read the link to a newspaper article.
I, sort of, felt his pain and a closeness to where I am. I wish I could have helped. To talk to a like minded person is only a dream.
I fully understand and appreciate the pain he has suffered, as I to, suffer the same emotive pain.
I didn't know Shakey on a personal level, but did read and correspond with him on many occasions.
I have no idea as to why and what for, he felt the way he did.
A double life they say?
Yes. It is far easier to "smile and be happy" to everyone, as no-one wants to talk to a loser.
I am not sure if I am saying the right things here but, I don't really care right now as emotion has got the better of me.
God bless Shakey and all of his family.
I can't make the funeral tomorrow, but I hope to pop in to the Grayfriers forbreakfast and to meet those who are going.
God bless.
We need to talk at work!
pm you fella.
Mark.
You're not on your own mate, pm me if you want a chat about this.I guessed The Shakey had suffered from this terrible illness from the way he would defend the mention of it. He would also chastise anyone who would dare to criticise anyone who suffered from it.
Unfortunately, like most folk here, I had no idea that he was still suffering so bad.
Shakeys death came as a total shock to me and even more so when I read the link to a newspaper article.
I, sort of, felt his pain and a closeness to where I am. I wish I could have helped. To talk to a like minded person is only a dream.
I fully understand and appreciate the pain he has suffered, as I to, suffer the same emotive pain.
I didn't know Shakey on a personal level, but did read and correspond with him on many occasions.
I have no idea as to why and what for, he felt the way he did.
A double life they say?
Yes. It is far easier to "smile and be happy" to everyone, as no-one wants to talk to a loser.
I am not sure if I am saying the right things here but, I don't really care right now as emotion has got the better of me.
God bless Shakey and all of his family.
I can't make the funeral tomorrow, but I hope to pop in to the Grayfriers forbreakfast and to meet those who are going.
God bless.
I've followed this thread as an outsider - an exiled PNE fan living in Scotland, but didn't get chance to look thorugh all of the posts. Any death holds its own tragic circumstances and the talk about depression in some of the previous threads gave me a very uncomfortable feeling about Shaky's death.
I have just read the article in today's North West Evening Mail which has confirmed my thoughts. As a counsellor I deal with a lot of people that have depression and express suicidal thoughts, but it still hurts me to witness the impact it has on families and friends and saddens me to think of what the person must have been experiencing to choose death over life.
My heartfelt sorrow goes out to the late Shaky and I hope that his family get all the support that they need.
I have just read the article in today's North West Evening Mail which has confirmed my thoughts. As a counsellor I deal with a lot of people that have depression and express suicidal thoughts, but it still hurts me to witness the impact it has on families and friends and saddens me to think of what the person must have been experiencing to choose death over life.
My heartfelt sorrow goes out to the late Shaky and I hope that his family get all the support that they need.
Just to lighten the mood a little, the line of the day came from deepdaledes to JD. Des gave JD a book in which to write something about Shaky, and it went like this:-
des: "Here write in this"
JD: "What do I just sign it"
des: "No, put something about Shaky in it a memory or something, but for goodness sake remember there are only 200 pages"
I have laughted at this all afternoon (sorry JD) and Shaky would have enjoyed the joke I am sure.
Whilst its on my mind, I enjoyed the day with my fellow pne-online members, I am grateful for the opportunity of being in all of your lives. I have met some darned good friends though this forum and for that I am truely grateful. Sharon and Sandra thank you so very much for taking me today, you are very special to me.
Haha, i typed away, I think, 7 meaningful lines.
Today was a fantastic turn out, far more than I expected.
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Fair play, who'd have thought that Shaky could have brought us all together like this?
Cheers for the post Mike, and cheers to everybody who has contributed.
Cheers for the post Mike, and cheers to everybody who has contributed.
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Home now after 13 and a half hours of drinking topped off with a curry in his honour! Been an emotional day. I joined the Tosser ranks today by standing outside in the rain, in my bloody PNE shirt. Hope I didn't waffle too much on the speech.
Fantastic turn out for a much loved man. I can't put into words how much I'm gonna miss you.
Fantastic turn out for a much loved man. I can't put into words how much I'm gonna miss you.
Under the circumstances it doesn't feel right to say that today was a good day, but well, it was.
To see first hand that so many people thought so much of Shaky to be singing his name in his local pub was something that I wouldn't have wanted to miss.
It was nice to catch up with a few friends today who I hadn't seen for ages, Shaky would've loved it and he also would've loved the fact that people are openly talking about their own problems on this thread.
God bless you Shakes, you won't be forgotten x
To see first hand that so many people thought so much of Shaky to be singing his name in his local pub was something that I wouldn't have wanted to miss.
It was nice to catch up with a few friends today who I hadn't seen for ages, Shaky would've loved it and he also would've loved the fact that people are openly talking about their own problems on this thread.
God bless you Shakes, you won't be forgotten x
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I wasn't going to post anything regards myself on here but after reading Mikes post perhaps it may help someone else.
I have explained my illness already to two people on here, Joan and Bint (I must need a ladies opinion 🙂) prior to Mikes post. I was diagnosed with depression four years ago and have been on medication ever since. It was a series of events that led to my demise, over a period of several years I found myself in a situation that I felt I could not escape. At one point I was so far removed from reality that I was living two lives, I was the loud, brash life and soul in company but spent hours sat in my car sobbing.
I cannot go to much into detail as several people know me on here and it was work related, in a nutshell I had to prove company fraud had been committed by others and not myself. Thankfully the law saw sense and I was proven correct, but the proof took four and a half years and simply made me ill. I started taking 'risks', not breaking till the last second in the car being the most obvious.
I had six months off work, three months of counselling, a change of career and got through the worst, BUT anything can kick you backwards. I can literally leave the house in the greatest mood and by the time I leave the drive I can feel the darkness behind my eyes. It really is crippling.
If there is anyone on here that ever wants to pm me regards this issue further please do, if it doesn't help you it may actually help me.
Another really great post - selfless and strong...
I've not personally suffered depression... but seen it in my family. It's tough for the sufferer... and it's really tough for the family too (and of course, the sufferer knows this, which just makes them feel worse !)
I'm not sure quite what triggers the recovery... but people get there.