Skip to main content

Time for action - An open letter to Preston North End FC (Meeting & responses added).

Time for action - An open letter to Preston North End FC (Meeting & responses added).

peterpne2 said:
They say things like “premiership ambitions” to shut people up.

Unfortunately we do not have the means to compete at that level, new owners wouldn’t necessarily change that as we would still be unable to commercially generate more revenue.

For every Wrexham and Birmingham, there’s 10 owners like sheff wednesdays & 100 like ours.

There’s nothing wrong with existing, if you want a more ambitious club then your probably better to save yourself the stress and look elsewhere.
Click to expand...

Fucking hell.

Just watch the club rot and enjoy it.

Nobody is asking for over night success. They want to see development. The cunts could have done it this window. Three more signings in the Small/Offiah mould (total cost: fuck all) would have changed the viewpoint. Get four or five young twenty somethings in that side and you'd have got buy in..

This idea PNE fans are being overly ambitious is fucking disgusting.
 
You have a choice! You chose the poison, Nobody is forcing you to attend games buy tickets or follow the club.

Writing another letter will just get filed next to ridsdales Waitrose meal deal after he’s eaten it.

It’s embarrassing
 
peterpne2 said:
I don’t care for or against the family, unfortunately the rules that have been created by the leagues and authorities are anticompetitive and stop anyone from even trying to compete, look at Newcastle now, they have money but can’t spend it.

Football is the only business where if you have money you can’t spend it. You spend to much the league then stops you from being able to sign people or gives you points

Your telling me stokes owners wouldn’t spend 100s of millions to get them in the prem, of course they would.

The rules make more bad owners than the owners themselves!
Click to expand...

Oh Craig would pump billions in if he could. We all know that. 😂
 
peterpne2 said:
I don’t care for or against the family, unfortunately the rules that have been created by the leagues and authorities are anticompetitive and stop anyone from even trying to compete, look at Newcastle now, they have money but can’t spend it.

Football is the only business where if you have money you can’t spend it. You spend to much the league then stops you from being able to sign people or gives you points

Your telling me stokes owners wouldn’t spend 100s of millions to get them in the prem, of course they would.

The rules make more bad owners than the owners themselves!
Click to expand...
They can spend it on the training ground, upgrading the youth set up, under soil heating, desso pitch etc, etc, fucking etc!

None of this affects ffp.

They choose not to do 🤬
 
Rankine said:
They can spend it on the training ground, upgrading the youth set up, under soil heating, desso pitch etc, etc, fucking etc!

None of this affects ffp.

They choose not to do 🤬
Click to expand...

Ridsdale gets a budget and chooses not to as stated!

A business that sets an annual budget wow headline
 
peterpne2 said:
You chose the poison,
Click to expand...

Again, not true. Most of us didn't start supporting in the Hemmings era and even when we did, the family ripped off supporters who held shares in the club. There was an obligation at that point to put in more than he has (before the FFP argument you mistakenly cling to came into force) and he still drip fed. This wasn't what those fans who had shares signed up for. Had they known this is now the cunts had ran it I know two who would have rather not have let him take control

Keep going, you haven't made a worthwhile argument yet.
 
peterpne2 said:
I don’t care for or against the family, unfortunately the rules that have been created by the leagues and authorities are anticompetitive and stop anyone from even trying to compete, look at Newcastle now, they have money but can’t spend it.

Football is the only business where if you have money you can’t spend it. You spend to much the league then stops you from being able to sign people or gives you points

Your telling me stokes owners wouldn’t spend 100s of millions to get them in the prem, of course they would.

The rules make more bad owners than the owners themselves!
Click to expand...
The financial rules are not impacting our spending,we could spend more if our owners wished to do so, they choose not to do so.
As for Newcastle they are reported as making a £68m bid for a player, like all your wum posts let's just avoid the facts.
 
proton said:
The financial rules are not impacting our spending,we could spend more if our owners wished to do so, they choose not to do so.
As for Newcastle they are reported as making a £68m bid for a player, like all your wum posts let's just avoid the facts.
Click to expand...
Jesus do you not read, even if we change the owners it doesn’t change the issue
 
peterpne2 said:
I mean if the vocal people in the fan base where not such insufferable cunts maybe the owners would be a little more receptive.
Click to expand...

I doubt that very much. A genuine attempt at conciliation/reconciliation with the owners and executive was made in November last year. It was totally dismissed out of hand with subsequent admonishments.

The whole ownership and executive set up is antiquated, dysfunctional in the extreme, and toxic.
 
peterpne2 said:
Even if we change the owners it doesn’t change the issue
Click to expand...

I mean this in good faith, but please explain this because I don't understand how changing the owners doesn't change the issue.

Let me outline my responses to the points you've put across.

Right now we aren't upgrading the academy because Ridsdale is working to a budget set by the owners. Why would a change of ownership mean we can't spend more on the academy, training facilities, undersoil heating etc? These aren't bound by PSR/FFP. The Hemmings could increase the budget to reflect this, but they haven't.

From what I can see too, a change in ownership might mean a change of strategy regarding our income too. We don't have sponsorship for Euxton, Springfields, Deepdale, the training kits, our sleeves etc. If you're concerned about the rules, having these sponsorships would increase our income, therefore providing us with more room to manoeuvre in the transfer market. So why would a change in ownership not change anything? We've had the same approach to commercial income since Trevor bought the club and so far it doesn't look like it's going to change.
 
Durutti said:
Fucking hell.

Just watch the club rot and enjoy it.

Nobody is asking for over night success. They want to see development. The cunts could have done it this window. Three more signings in the Small/Offiah mould (total cost: fuck all) would have changed the viewpoint. Get four or five young twenty somethings in that side and you'd have got buy in..

This idea PNE fans are being overly ambitious is fucking disgusting.
Click to expand...
Good point.

How did we do it in the BAXI revival days?
 
peterpne2 said:
I mean if the vocal people in the fan base where not such insufferable cunts maybe the owners would be a little more receptive.
Click to expand...
An interesting disagreement between you both so perhaps I can add my two penneth to the mix.

FFP is categorically not the reason today of what funds are given from the Isle of Man to run the club. The totality of what Ridsdale is given is the choice of the Trust. Indeed, is you do a comparison between North End and a Championship club with similar turnover etc., we spend far less than them all. Ridsdale explained this (again) a few weeks ago with his “this is the amount I am given to spend” comment which, if you recall, is very different than quoting FFP and the pandemic as the reason. Yes, of course there is a ceiling to spending re FFP, but don’t be kidded in to thinking we are at that level.

Trevor Hemmings chose to wait until he had the club over an HMRC barrel before offering to buy back shares for a pittance. That was his choice. Having completed that process, he was beholden to do his very best for North End. Following his passing, I would argue that his family and the Trust have a duty to do their best for the club too. Ensuring the club just functions is categorically not the best billionaires can do - in fact, I believe it’s a dereliction of responsibility.

The ownership revels in being amongst lowest payer of footballer salaries in the Championship and then seems baffled at why we achieve nothing other than existing and why supporters get angry. The ownership believes that exceptionally gifted players can be bought for League Two fees. The ownership gives just enough money to give the very minimum in finances to keep what was a wonderful stadium ticking over.

Whilst Hemmings and the Trust oversee the above, I will, as a season ticket holder since the 1970s, continue to constructively criticise and refuse to accept the gradual decline that they bought in to following the Baxi years.
 
Sid Snot said:
I doubt that very much. A genuine attempt at conciliation/reconciliation with the owners and executive was made in November last year. It was totally dismissed out of hand with subsequent admonishments.

The whole ownership and executive set up is antiquated, dysfunctional in the extreme, and toxic.
Click to expand...
What when the minority groups wrote a public letter calling out the ownership that attempt yeah 👍
 
Hypnotoad said:
Good point.

How did we do it in the BAXI revival days?
Click to expand...

There's a really good section in one of the North End souls book from Bryan Gray about his working relationship with David Moyes, keeping track of the values, some data etc. You had two forward thinking people at the helm. So that helped.

They also invested in areas outside the pitch to help on the pitch matters (e.g. the stadium and prozone).

It also helped that we paid the going rate back in the day. £1.8m for Healy back then is the equivalent of £5m now.

It also helped that we sold players and reinvested in players that could be developed. The Kevin Kilbane money was spent on Murdoch, Appleton and Macken. The Macken money was spent on Fuller and others. The Fuller money was spent on Nugent, some others and the Invincibles stand. Meanwhile the Hugill money went on the likes Moult, Stockley etc and we haven't sold anyone for any real value since.

TLDR: Intelligent forward thinking leadership, paid the going rate for players and we actually sold players for good fees and reinvested it into players that could be developed.
 
Back
Top