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Time for action - An open letter to Preston North End FC (Meeting & responses added).

Time for action - An open letter to Preston North End FC (Meeting & responses added).

You have a choice! You chose the poison, Nobody is forcing you to attend games buy tickets or follow the club.

Writing another letter will just get filed next to ridsdales Waitrose meal deal after he’s eaten it.

It’s embarrassing
You do have a choice and you’ve chosen to sip the poison with a smile, then sneer at others for pointing out it’s toxic. Nobody is forcing you to attend, buy tickets or care. Equally, nobody forced Trevor Hemmings to buy the club. But once you choose to own a football club our club there’s a responsibility to do more than just keep the lights on and occasionally pat the dog.

And as for your bizarre loyalty test, implying that criticism of how the club is run means we don’t support it? Give over. Many of us have been here far longer than the current ownership, and we’ll still be here when the Isle of Man finally cashes out and hands the reins to the next generation of reluctant benefactors. Supporting Preston North End doesn’t mean blindly clapping every slow-motion car crash they steer us into.

You mock the idea of writing letters like it’s some cringeworthy, futile act. Yet for all your snide remarks, those letters led to meetings, meetings you weren’t in, conversations you weren’t part of, and outcomes you’re clearly still guessing at. I’ve already said I’ve drawn a line under it. But I’ve also had direct contact with the Chairman , not the PR puppet, and I’ll stand by my statement: relegation would have been catastrophic, and he knew it.

All we ever asked for was hope. A sign of intent. A willingness to push forward, however modestly. But here we are, a week before the season kicks off not at the end of August, but in August and we’re still three players short in key positions we’ve failed to address year after year. And people like you shrug your shoulders and tell everyone to be grateful we exist at all. It’s pathetic.

There’ll be no more meetings. No more letters. No more wasted energy. Why? Because we’ve stopped believing they’re listening. The trust has gone and frankly, posts like yours show it’s not just the board that have lost touch. It’s embarrassing, you say? What’s embarrassing is fans contorting themselves into human shields for a regime that’s happy for you to argue on their behalf while they do sweet F.A.

You want to sit in silence, fine. That’s your choice. But don’t patronise or belittle those of us who still care enough to speak out.

I mean if the vocal people in the fan base where not such insufferable cunts maybe the owners would be a little more receptive.

Ah yes, the classic "it's the fans' fault" defence because nothing screams accountability like blaming your most engaged supporters for daring to speak up.

If your entire argument boils down to "maybe the owners would do more if people weren’t mean to them on the internet," then frankly, you’ve already lost the plot. We’re not dealing with children whose feelings got hurt because someone said the word “ambition” a bit too loudly. We’re talking about multi-million-pound custodians of a professional football club who repeatedly fail to act in its best interest.

And for the record if you think running around calling people “insufferable cunts” is the high ground, maybe sit this one out when it comes to lecturing others on tone, respect, or how to engage with the club.

This forum exists to give all supporters a voice even those who want to grovel for breadcrumbs and tell others to stop asking questions. But don’t confuse criticism with disrespect. And don’t kid yourself that fan passivity has ever led to progress.

If you think things would magically improve if we all just clapped harder, you’re not supporting the club you’re enabling its decline.
 
We avoided relegation by one point last season.

We are being left behind by clubs we need to take points off, who are all strengthening their squads with significant investment.

The three teams that's have come up look stronger than any three for years.

We have arguably improved a number of positions at the back and the psyicality of the team but have done nothing to address the biggest issue last season.

There is no creativity in this squad, the manager pretty much admitted it after the Bolton game.

Fans have every reason to be concerned and if you think that fans would rather we got relegated to prove a point, then that's idiotic.

I’d add to that, we were the third lowest scoring side in The Championship last season and we have a significantly weaker attack this season as it stands.

Despite so much focus on our defence being crap, it was far from being the worst in the division last year.
 
I’d add to that, we were the third lowest scoring side in The Championship last season and we have a significantly weaker attack this season as it stands.

Despite so much focus on our defence being crap, it was far from being the worst in the division last year.
hasn't it been that under RL and PH we have needed a safety first approach (hence boring football) in order to protect our defence and keeper. Maybe we can't start to attack... if ony we had an attacking midfielder and striker good at this level.
 
hasn't it been that under RL and PH we have needed a safety first approach (hence boring football) in order to protect our defence and keeper. Maybe we can't start to attack... if ony we had an attacking midfielder and striker good at this level.

Yeah, even if we don’t need to protect the defence as much, we won’t be scoring more goals than last season if we don’t bring any attacking players in.

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You do have a choice and you’ve chosen to sip the poison with a smile, then sneer at others for pointing out it’s toxic. Nobody is forcing you to attend, buy tickets or care. Equally, nobody forced Trevor Hemmings to buy the club. But once you choose to own a football club our club there’s a responsibility to do more than just keep the lights on and occasionally pat the dog.

And as for your bizarre loyalty test, implying that criticism of how the club is run means we don’t support it? Give over. Many of us have been here far longer than the current ownership, and we’ll still be here when the Isle of Man finally cashes out and hands the reins to the next generation of reluctant benefactors. Supporting Preston North End doesn’t mean blindly clapping every slow-motion car crash they steer us into.

You mock the idea of writing letters like it’s some cringeworthy, futile act. Yet for all your snide remarks, those letters led to meetings, meetings you weren’t in, conversations you weren’t part of, and outcomes you’re clearly still guessing at. I’ve already said I’ve drawn a line under it. But I’ve also had direct contact with the Chairman , not the PR puppet, and I’ll stand by my statement: relegation would have been catastrophic, and he knew it.

All we ever asked for was hope. A sign of intent. A willingness to push forward, however modestly. But here we are, a week before the season kicks off not at the end of August, but in August and we’re still three players short in key positions we’ve failed to address year after year. And people like you shrug your shoulders and tell everyone to be grateful we exist at all. It’s pathetic.

There’ll be no more meetings. No more letters. No more wasted energy. Why? Because we’ve stopped believing they’re listening. The trust has gone and frankly, posts like yours show it’s not just the board that have lost touch. It’s embarrassing, you say? What’s embarrassing is fans contorting themselves into human shields for a regime that’s happy for you to argue on their behalf while they do sweet F.A.

You want to sit in silence, fine. That’s your choice. But don’t patronise or belittle those of us who still care enough to speak out.



Ah yes, the classic "it's the fans' fault" defence because nothing screams accountability like blaming your most engaged supporters for daring to speak up.

If your entire argument boils down to "maybe the owners would do more if people weren’t mean to them on the internet," then frankly, you’ve already lost the plot. We’re not dealing with children whose feelings got hurt because someone said the word “ambition” a bit too loudly. We’re talking about multi-million-pound custodians of a professional football club who repeatedly fail to act in its best interest.

And for the record if you think running around calling people “insufferable cunts” is the high ground, maybe sit this one out when it comes to lecturing others on tone, respect, or how to engage with the club.

This forum exists to give all supporters a voice even those who want to grovel for breadcrumbs and tell others to stop asking questions. But don’t confuse criticism with disrespect. And don’t kid yourself that fan passivity has ever led to progress.

If you think things would magically improve if we all just clapped harder, you’re not supporting the club you’re enabling its decline.

Post of the preseason ! 👏
 
I mean if the vocal people in the fan base where not such insufferable cunts maybe the owners would be a little more receptive.
What pile of shite and not any one of the people I know is insufferable let alone the nasty insult you throw out to your fellow fans you should be deeply ashamed that people like you attach yourself to decent passionate fans.
 
Jesus do you not read, even if we change the owners it doesn’t change the issue
Why doesn't it? New owner, new idea's new optisim,fresh air. Toxic Pete out the door. No one is asking for miricles, but since Peter came in we have made a loss on most players, 85% leaving on a free. 40% ish of them being paid off. It can't go one it is insufferable as you state below. The club is suffering from stagnation and underinvestment. It's got a shirt sponsor with millions of followers and apart from what they doing, I see nothing from the club trying to engagde with them. It's piss poor.

I mean if the vocal people in the fan base where not such insufferable cunts maybe the owners would be a little more receptive.

If your not the Peter, then there are 2 insufferable peters (or C U next Tursdays) Sorry but I see the vocal ones as the one's that care and are trying. The club need to listen to the fans and work with the fans, not against them for their own gain.
 
You do have a choice and you’ve chosen to sip the poison with a smile, then sneer at others for pointing out it’s toxic. Nobody is forcing you to attend, buy tickets or care. Equally, nobody forced Trevor Hemmings to buy the club. But once you choose to own a football club our club there’s a responsibility to do more than just keep the lights on and occasionally pat the dog.

And as for your bizarre loyalty test, implying that criticism of how the club is run means we don’t support it? Give over. Many of us have been here far longer than the current ownership, and we’ll still be here when the Isle of Man finally cashes out and hands the reins to the next generation of reluctant benefactors. Supporting Preston North End doesn’t mean blindly clapping every slow-motion car crash they steer us into.

You mock the idea of writing letters like it’s some cringeworthy, futile act. Yet for all your snide remarks, those letters led to meetings, meetings you weren’t in, conversations you weren’t part of, and outcomes you’re clearly still guessing at. I’ve already said I’ve drawn a line under it. But I’ve also had direct contact with the Chairman , not the PR puppet, and I’ll stand by my statement: relegation would have been catastrophic, and he knew it.

All we ever asked for was hope. A sign of intent. A willingness to push forward, however modestly. But here we are, a week before the season kicks off not at the end of August, but in August and we’re still three players short in key positions we’ve failed to address year after year. And people like you shrug your shoulders and tell everyone to be grateful we exist at all. It’s pathetic.

There’ll be no more meetings. No more letters. No more wasted energy. Why? Because we’ve stopped believing they’re listening. The trust has gone and frankly, posts like yours show it’s not just the board that have lost touch. It’s embarrassing, you say? What’s embarrassing is fans contorting themselves into human shields for a regime that’s happy for you to argue on their behalf while they do sweet F.A.

You want to sit in silence, fine. That’s your choice. But don’t patronise or belittle those of us who still care enough to speak out.



Ah yes, the classic "it's the fans' fault" defence because nothing screams accountability like blaming your most engaged supporters for daring to speak up.

If your entire argument boils down to "maybe the owners would do more if people weren’t mean to them on the internet," then frankly, you’ve already lost the plot. We’re not dealing with children whose feelings got hurt because someone said the word “ambition” a bit too loudly. We’re talking about multi-million-pound custodians of a professional football club who repeatedly fail to act in its best interest.

And for the record if you think running around calling people “insufferable cunts” is the high ground, maybe sit this one out when it comes to lecturing others on tone, respect, or how to engage with the club.

This forum exists to give all supporters a voice even those who want to grovel for breadcrumbs and tell others to stop asking questions. But don’t confuse criticism with disrespect. And don’t kid yourself that fan passivity has ever led to progress.

If you think things would magically improve if we all just clapped harder, you’re not supporting the club you’re enabling its decline.
I think this post is 100% nail.on the head.. I've long believed the apathy at the top has been our problem but sadly now become part of the. fan base ....I don't see any hope until we have a new regime new culture at the top.The club has been drifting for years it's far more depressing to see a lack of ambition in the fan base than in the owners....if there was more ambition in the fan base there would be more loud & vocal. Criticism of a badly run football club by people who don't have what it takes to succeed
 
Look around you, this just isn't washing with the fans anymore.

Yes, they cover the losses of THEIR poor business decisions that litter this club but it's obvious to fans now with Oxford and Charlton pissing on our transfer budgets that this isn't enough.

Why are they hanging onto the club and drip feeding it and damaging their own public reps in the meantime? There is a financial reason they won't let go of the club and/or the asking price is mental.
It's an interesting question. It may not be a business or financial reason, why they continue to put "THE BUDGET" into the club. It is far more likely to do with what Trevor Hemmings put into his will, regarding the retention and support of the Football Club. Worryingly, the BUDGET figure is running way behind where it needs to be. The fact it does not appear to be increasing is probably down to the Trustees lack of interest in having to run and fund a Football Club. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a job for Riddler for life, and a ridiculous disposal figure included in TH's will aswell. it would explain a lot..
 
Did Trev not like his family, why would he saddle them with a football club when only one has the slightest of interest.

Surely if he did put something in his will to protect the club it can't be an extra long proviso.
 
It's an interesting question. It may not be a business or financial reason, why they continue to put "THE BUDGET" into the club. It is far more likely to do with what Trevor Hemmings put into his will, regarding the retention and support of the Football Club. Worryingly, the BUDGET figure is running way behind where it needs to be. The fact it does not appear to be increasing is probably down to the Trustees lack of interest in having to run and fund a Football Club. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a job for Riddler for life, and a ridiculous disposal figure included in TH's will aswell. it would explain a lot..
Not like Trevor to be charitable or swayed by personal feelings. Profit was the thing that drove his rise from a bricklayer to a multi millionaire. Of course if some associate knew where the business deal "dead bodies" were buried and needed to be looked after ... we will never know the real story!!
 
Pressure needs to be put on those that own the club.
It is them that state the aim is the Prem, then they do not invest in the club sufficiently. So we need to hold them to account.
I would love to be more connected to start a protest, but I am not. I don't know many Northenders personally. I would not know many on here even if sat next to them for many seasons, so I don't think I am the best person to start a protest group. But I would happy join one if there was.
By the way, there are many on here is would like to meet. Even the ones I don't always agree with, the BIG question is do I want to hear a story about a certain hatrick first hand 🤔
Re Hat trick - There is always the option of slamming your head firmly in a door - an option I have found far more preferable over the years I have known @Ando60
 
Not like Trevor to be charitable or swayed by personal feelings. Profit was the thing that drove his rise from a bricklayer to a multi millionaire. Of course if some associate knew where the business deal "dead bodies" were buried and needed to be looked after ... we will never know the real story!!
And we don’t need to know - what matters is the here and now - can’t fault JK and the team for their engagement with the club
 
Not like Trevor to be charitable or swayed by personal feelings. Profit was the thing that drove his rise from a bricklayer to a multi millionaire. Of course if some associate knew where the business deal "dead bodies" were buried and needed to be looked after ... we will never know the real story!!

This exactly. I mean, the Hemmings business model could be summed up in a word: 'ruthless'. He did drip feed businesses and properties until big offers came in? Maybe we're still waiting and it's just not big enough and offer?

But I would have thought, given non PNE media sources are now quoting the failures of the Hemmings ownership model that this is very unwanted bad press for them?

That's why I've always wanted a Hemmings out protest. They are very quiet operators and a BBC article of us going studs out on them could actually do something.

I'll start putting together an effigy.

Now, what the living do Craig and Revitt actually look like?
 
Is it time for another letter?

The issue (IMO) has and always will be the owners. I thought things might change since Trevor has passed but they are gradually getting worse.

If we have ‘no money’ that is a complete and utter joke.

Yes in some aspects we could spend the money better (and ridsdale must take the blame with that) but overall I think we have done alright with the budget this pre season. But now the money has just disappeared. Complete and utter joke.
 
Is it time for another letter?

The issue (IMO) has and always will be the owners. I thought things might change since Trevor has passed but they are gradually getting worse.

If we have ‘no money’ that is a complete and utter joke.

Yes in some aspects we could spend the money better (and ridsdale must take the blame with that) but overall I think we have done alright with the budget this pre season. But now the money has just disappeared. Complete and utter joke.
It is so annoying …..

At the start of the window , the story was that we would bring in lots of frees to bolster the defence but that there was money for our attacking options… It now all appears to have been BS
 
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